That seems like an oversight.
HN will generate similar traffic to a techcrunch post, if you look at the raw numbers. The big difference is that the TechCrunch traffic is from a readship of a million, and those who click are genuinely interested in your service, that they just read about.
HN will also give you a pretty large boost of traffic, but more are just interested in checking you as a startup, not as an end-user.
3-4 years ago (first time I had a project covered by TC) it delivered ~3x more traffic compared to what I see nowadays (probably because the volume of daily posts has skyrocketed over those years).
I'm sure controversial topics (Angelgate, etc) still drive traffic, but if HN is creating 10k uniques for top stories then the "HN effect" is greater than what average TC coverage provides.
Plus, I've seen a lot of early adopters and tastemakers have moved to HN for finding things more on the cutting edge.
As much as I hate to say it, planning an effective HN marketing campaign may end up being more useful than trying to pitch the bloggers...
The sites on the list have a pretty low chance of your site getting "overlooked" as easily as it happens on HN on a fairly frequent basis. There are just so many stories submitted here that they can't all possibly be upvoted. The sites listed are blog-like and guarantee your site gets visibility for some amount of time.
What didn't help is that you posted it as 'self post', so one without a link (those are penalized).
Better to wait until 8:30 tomorrow morning, post it as a linked article and put your explanatory text in the first comment.
I put a lot of work into this site and to have it only get 3 comments and 2 points was kind of a let down, and also kind of confusing.
The 'self' presumably refers to the article being HN only.
To avoid meta-discussion and 'Ask HN' style posts clogging up the new page they are penalized, so they'll typically drop off faster even if they do receive a lot of votes. And if they don't receive a lot of votes then they're gone even faster.
So if you want your 'rate my startup' post to be seen best just post the link, and add any extra info as the first comment in the thread.
I launched http://www.moreofit.com awhile ago and was on the frontpage for awhile too. Got 4k uniques, which trickled down to 100 in about 24 hours. Since then, I get about 200 uniques a day :(
As an FYI, we're only writing up 1 tonight (AnyNewBooks?) and will sort thru the rest for posting soon.
I really do appreciate the submissions though. Please, keep them coming. I live for this stuff.
I actually got about 200+ referrals from them, which was nice. In addition to multiple PR offerings.
Also, despite their audience, I didn't receive a lot of feedback initially. That took some more time.
What do you guys suggest to market an iPhone app (more specifically, productivity/utility $1.99)? What has worked for you?
"You herein consent that The Company will disclose to any third party your name, address, e-mail address or telephone number (you may opt out of this by not submitting your startup), except to the extent necessary or appropriate to comply with applicable laws or in legal proceedings where such information is relevant. The Company reserves the right to offer third party services and products to you based on the preferences that you identify in your registration and at any time thereafter; such offers may be made by the Company or by third parties."
But now that you mention solicitations, I was contacted by three PR companies in that same traffic spike. It appears to be a hot-bed for PR companies scouring for new clients. I just wonder if the site isn't run by one of these companies.
I certainly understand where your displeasure comes from, yet I do feel it needs to be kept in perspective. As in this would not be acceptable on your personal email. But on your generic site email. ( Which should still have a touch of personal, of course for your users! )
As mentioned in many places, if you are using email via google, you could always "+killerstartups" in your email.
I just tested it myself and it worked great. Not with "+killerstartups" just "+test".
Most were really generic and irritating. I could tell I was just being spammed. However, a couple were well-written and polite. I emailed them back thanking them and letting them know I'd consider their service in the future and they were very nice about things.
I once posted an early version of one of my sites on the craigslist forum for feedback. The responses were not helpful.
I would like to expand this, how would one who is opening an online store for example get coverage besides the normal press? I mean yes it is a startup but not, we make everything ourselves, so it's not reselling someone else's stuff, but at the same time doesn't fit the startup mold.
I'm wondering if there are equivalents for iPhone apps (or mobile apps in general).
Edit: Created a new post focusing on my mobile apps question so as not to hijack this thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1757510
Your app must at least be in open beta, and must be free or 'freemium'.
This would just make everyone's life so much easier.
I don't know if it was random or not, but it seems like they start with really easy (and in often case worthless) targets and then just work you up to say a VentureBeat. We (GroupTabs) had already been covered there, along with a couple other of their suggested pitch spots - so they definitely are not looking at that, which would be a nice feature.
That said I'm not sure a common app would really work. If you want coverage it's more than pitching the right publications, it's pitching the right people there.
video at http://blog.fairsoftware.net/2010/08/24/pr2-0-doesnt-work-fo...
First of all, credentials: I have been covered on many of the sites listed including techcrunch, venturebeat, killerstartups, etc... I know first-hand the kind of response each site generates.
Second: I forced journalists from VentureBeat, the San Jose Mercury News and Wired to spend 30 minutes discussing the best approach to get coverage, in public. I linked to that video. If you don't have time to listen to how the press wants you to pitch to them, don't be surprised that nothing is working out for you :-)
Third. The answer is relationship. Build relationships with the various media & influencers. Not by buying them drinks, but by understanding who they are, what they write about, and why. You surely hate spam. They do to. And using such a list of 100 sites to send the same announcement is spam in their book. I thought you should know.