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I see this a lot in the UK, and it's why I'm now a contractor.

You will have 10 years experience, a relevant degree, security clearance and no boundaries when it comes to overtime.

We will pay you £35k!

The sad thing is, they will fill that position, with someone not very good, with low expectations and no confidence in themselves. And they will get mediocre work, which they expect.




The difference in pay between contractor and permanent position in the UK is almost weird. The job is exactly the same, often for a duration of several months to years, and full time, except as a contractor you get paid like 2 or 3 times more. There are advantages to work in a permanent position but that doesn't make up for the massive loss in revenue.


Job security is a huge psychological factor. I'm starting on my own this very month, and deep down I'm incredibly scared that in a year I might be without a roof on my (and my children's) head.


In the UK I guess it depends a lot on the region, those are not, for example, London rates, right?


I do contract webdev work for a multi-national in the middle of nowhere in Connecticut. The london office posted a job that is exactly what I do but is paid 5 times less. At the Edinburgh office, 7 times less.

Same company, same upper-upper-upper management, but VASTLY different pay scales. Its nuts to think about, especially when I can rent a full 3 bed/3 bath house with basement and garage for about 2 times less than a 1 bedroom flat in London.


Part of that cost of rental is location. London is a world class city, highly desirable by millions of people as a place to live.

Connecticut isn't.


I completely get that, but I'm paid for the same position 5 times more. The wage they are providing my position in London isn't even livable without roomates. I could (if I wanted a terrible commute) afford a nice apartment in NYC for what I'm paid. If the UK gov't wasn't so anti-immigration, I could actually afford a pretty decent flat in London for what I'm paid as well (on top of the house I currently rent).


The post was not about London vs Connecticut but about pay-scale relative to the cost of living.


You won't be living in world-class accommodations in London on that salary, which is the entire point.


> London is a world class city, highly desirable by millions of people as a place to live

London is a great place to be, but horrible to live.


Anecdotally, it doesn't seem so. Even straight out of University with 0 years experience, salaries among my cohort seemed to be between 30-40k GBP and this was some years ago.

Not to say that there isn't companies making terrible offers in London, but I don't know people working for them.




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