well, that is their job ...
> This isn't surprising.
Not sure how those two statements go together. HR's job is to protect the company from HR-related issues, like claims of discrimination. When the head of HR is herself embroiled in a discrimination inquiry, it shouldn't be a surprise that she is asked to leave.
I sometimes wonder if legal aspect of the role HR serves would be better served by an outside legal firm that can determine the risk “objectively”. They’re never going to choose an outcome that will better serve an employee but HR doesn’t do that anyway. At least they’ll be able to tell the organization, “This dipshit is going to get you sued and you’re going to lose” without worrying about an HR manager trying to sweep something under the rug because they have a good relationship with the people in question.
Liane was beloved at Uber. I cannot speak to any issues of racial discrimination, but I definitely felt that Lianne was one of the "good" folks at the company, and I am very surprised and dissapointed by this news.
People were saying the same thing about Bill Cosby, that he was one of the "good guys" right up until light was shed on his behavior with a specific subset of human beings.
I know great engineers who treat me really well but at the same time are horrible human beings who treat specific subgroups of people in an unacceptable way.
This process of helping such people identify that they have a problem, that they are behaving in an unacceptable way and then fixing it is a good thing.
People that knew bill well knew he was weird before he got hit with all the accusations. He would do weird stuff like order people to stand/sit infront of him and watch him eat.
I was looking in the mirror one time and suddenly thought, "Wow! I'm pink. I mean, not just a little pink -- I'm super pink". I'd never thought about it before. It's just that after a decade of looking at everybody else that has a kind of tanned complexion, my view of "normal" had changed.
I used to have a pink shirt. I took out my pink shirt and put it on. "Wow. I look like a peach", I thought. I've never worn that shirt again. It doesn't suit my complexion. I don't know why I thought it suited my complexion before. What was I thinking, pink on pink? It's just crazy.
Don't get me wrong. I don't mind being pink. I've been pink my whole life and for a large majority of it, I didn't even notice. Most people were pink where I grew up. There were other people who were more tanned, and even some people who were kind of super tanned. I never really paid attention to it. It didn't matter to me. But after I realised that I was super pink, I started to wonder if those people realised that they were super tanned. Did it bother them?
Some people (very few to be honest) have treated me poorly only because I was pink. It hasn't really bothered me so far. It's not like I can change colour. In my original country, some people treated me poorly because I liked computers too much. When I moved to Japan, some people treated me poorly because I liked Japan too much. I probably could have changed those things, but I didn't. People treating me poorly for stupid reasons is crappy, but I'm too stubborn to worry about it much. I've met people who have suffered greatly because of it, though. I feel bad for them.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter, but I think the real answer to your question is that if you've never thought about it, then you are not a person of colour. If you suddenly realise what colour you are, then you will be. Whether you are or not makes very little difference to most people except you. Hopefully people won't treat you poorly (including because of what colour they think you are), but... there's always something isn't there? Whether it's because of your colour, or because they think you are annoying, or because they are just mad at something completely different and decide to take it out on you.
But yeah, the colour thing exists, even if you aren't aware of it.
You're certainly acting that way.
Your point that it can be discrimination without affecting all people of <x description> matches their point that one person of <x description> can’t speak for the experiences of all other people like them.
Also, if you think my hedging here is paranoid: https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/guild-wars-2-writers-fired-follo...
You don't fear firing due to stating your dislike of the former exec but fear what might happen if you explain that dislike???
I think this already goes beyond opinion into insinuation.
To me, the intent here appears to be to offer anecdata to make a case that she wasn't _universally_ beloved. I think it's meaningful and useful to be reminded that employees in a company aren't a bunch of mindless sheep and that they can have different values and opinions.
There's no need to do any lynching/bad-mouthing publically for that.
This is unwarranted. GP's comment was vague, but no vaguer than the one they were replying to - both offered subjective personal opinions about the topic of the article. That's hardly out of line for a discussion forum.
It sounds like it’s more about her saying things about diversity that others didnt like.
Not really the same thing IMO.
Where in the article does that "sounds like" come from?
Hmm, I didn't get that from the linked article. Care to substantiate?
It says she is alleged to have used discriminatory language, and made derogatory comments to a coworker.
So very much about discrimination.
"They alleged Hornsey had used discriminatory language and made derogatory comments about Uber Global Head of Diversity and Inclusion Bernard Coleman, and had denigrated and threatened former Uber executive Bozoma Saint John, who left the company in June."
"Some of the allegations were substantiated, investigators from law firm Gibson Dunn told the employees in a May 15 email that was seen by Reuters."