Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

I wish I could take credit for it. I know I got it from someone else, could have been lots of people, but Fun Fact: one famous proponent of the idea (though obviously not in a computing context) was Lenin.

https://platypus1917.org/2011/06/01/lenins-liberalism/

A similar sentiment is that history doesn't repeat but it does rhyme.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/01/12/history-rhymes/




Lenins views on this comes directly from Marx - it's the concept of "dialectical materialism" (though Marx did not use that term) - and Hegel. Specifically Marx noted in Capital that (paraphrased) capitalist property is the first negation (the antithesis) of feudalism (the thesis), but that capitalist production necessarily leads to its own negation in the form of communism - the negation of the negation (the synthesis) - basically applying Hegelian dialectics to "the real world".

In that example the idea is that feudalism represents a form of "community property", which though owned by a feudal lord in the final instance is in practice shared. Capitalism then "negates" that by making the property purely private, before communism negates that again and reverts to shared property but with different specific characteristics.

The three key principles of Hegels dialectics comes from Heraclitus (the idea of inherent conflict within a system pulling it apart), Aristotle (the paradox of the heap; the idea that quantitative changes eventually lead to qualitative change), and Hegel himself (the "negation of the negation" that was popularised by Marx in Capital; the idea that a driven by inherent conflict, qualitative changes will first change a system substantially, before reversing much of the nature of the initial change, but with specific qualitative differences).

The idea is known to have been simultaneously arrived at by others in 19th century too, at least (e.g. at least one correspondent of Marx' came up with it independently), and it's quite possible variations of it significantly predates both Marx and Hegel as well.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: