Firefox was always complained about but honestly I never noticed any differences that mattered especially with how ad encrusted the web has become these days. In fact I could never enjoy Chrome the same way I enjoy Firefox it just behaves and feels the way I've grown to know and enjoy.
We have a major issue with websites poorly supporting mobile browsers and websites being cross-browser friendly overall. The web still feels a little immature in these respects.
While I switched back to Firefox as well, I still miss Chrome's print dialog. It looks much simpler, yet does everything I need with a lot less clicks.
EDIT: The Firefox Quantum version (thanks politelemon): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/print-edit-we...
It's not simpler, but it's worth trying just to see and appreciate it; I've never this functionality elsewhere. You edit the document in Print Preview in an amazing number of ways, from removing sections to editing text to changing page breaks to much more. It's been completely reliable IME. It's hard to believe someone did it, maintains it, and is giving it away for free.
(Despite my enthusiasm, I have no connection with the software or developer.)
Thanks - I'll give this a try
firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager
I also appreciate Firefox ESR which has allowed me to test some legacy silverlight app which we're still porting over to HTML5 (to make sure we didn't miss anything).
Which sites? I've never encountered one that worked only in Chrome.
Open this page in a browser other than Chrome: https://pagedraw.io/tutorials/basics
Very annoying, because AFAICT everything works perfectly.
- Pocket integration. Dive into about:config, turn it off, lather rinse repeat on every device and every fresh OS install. I have about a dozen.
- The default theme has two large "spacer" elements that shrink the address bar towards the center. These might not bother anyone else, but they drove me nuts; fortunately they can be removed with the customization menu.
- Bookmarks sync well (yay!) but don't always retain the same ordering on each device, which gets a bit confusing. I can work around this easily enough, but it's not quite as smooth as the same feature on Chrome.
Most of these issues are relatively minor, and fortunately Firefox still has a fantastically intelligent community, so any time I ran into an issue the solution was a quick search away. I think the value add in feeling like I'm in more control of my browser is well worth it, and I hope Mozilla continues moving in this direction. More competition is good!
Regardless, it's good to know this can be turned off.
I'm actually a paid customer of Pocket Premium ever since it got acquired by Mozilla.
I hope they'll open source the implementation and fix their interface — I don't like that their search doesn't have an URL that I can use as a search provider.
Also Pocket's Firefox integration is actually less invasive than Chrome's extension, which I don't appreciate. I like for example having an "add to Pocket" link on HN items or in Twitter. And the Chrome extension also gives you a homepage with trending articles on Pocket. So I don't like Pocket's Firefox integration, but not for the same reason. I don't like it because it is less capable than Chrome's.
I also have Chrome installed and try it out from time to time. But Firefox's UI is much better and I haven't had any performance issues with it, quite the contrary, for my usage patterns Firefox feels better.
Bookmark sync is currently getting a complete overhaul to fix the various shortcomings: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WoM7JEatr_QJ1CrGk2rwoSDy...
This always bothered me, especially after it became hard-coded into the project. I used to do the same as you to remove it, but now I use Waterfox which rips it out at the source.
> - Bookmarks sync well (yay!) but don't always retain the same ordering on each device, which gets a bit confusing. I can work around this easily enough, but it's not quite as smooth as the same feature on Chrome.
I have found that if I give it about five minutes after syncing, my bookmarks tend to line themselves up according to the last fully synced install. This is important as I put all my bookmarks on the bookmarks bar arranged by folders and subfolders, and muscle memory gets thrown off if I don't give them time to sync positions.
Also, for the past few weeks, I set up a few Linux desktops. When you install Firefox Quantum alongside with the pre-installed Firefox ESR (most of mainstream distros has it) and enable sync, your bookmarks will have a higher chance of being incorrectly synced and your history (if you chose to sync it) will probably be at FIREFOX_PROFILE_DIR/places.sqlite.corrupt
A simple fix is to close Firefox and
$ cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/YOUR_PROFILE
$ mv places.sqlite.corrupt places.sqlite
minor? you are kidding
>feeling like I'm in more control of my browser
I lost the control of my browser after quantum. Now I still have some control over the websites displayed in the browser but the browser itself (loading screen, private mode, new-tab, reading view, focus of adress bar, all chrome-urls, ... ) are out of reach. Mozilla took 40% of control away. Without serious effort (fork , hacking..) I can't control my browser any more.
Every single time I install Firefox on a new OS I remove them. They drive me nuts too!
I have never had an issue with bookmark sync on Firefox. I did with Chrome-my bookmarks order would be rearranged every time I changed something, other devices would be messed up. It is one of the biggest reasons why I stuck with Firefox all these years.
I agree 100%, which is why I am not switching back.
(Also, for me, personally, I think downvoting people who have differing experiences is less than productive.)
So, imagine you have two cars to chose from.
The first car, called Chrome, is really cool - it's quick, it's nice, it's reliable, it's comfortable. There's just one thing.
There's a guy on the back seat. He's always there. He writes down wherever you're going. When you go shopping, he makes a copy of the receipt. When you drive with someone, he listens to the conversation and makes notes. Which addresses are you visiting? And how long time do you stay there? And when you make a phone call, he listens and makes notes.
He then keeps this information forever, and sells it to various people and companies. They study you, like a bug, to see what makes you tick. So they know what you like and what you want, and what you're afraid of and where are you in life and so on. So they can manipulate you better into not just buying shit, maybe, but maybe to do more sinister stuff, like manipulate elections.
Of course, the Chrome car makers own some of the important roads, and they make them hard to use in other cars, because they want this dude watching you.
Then there's the Firefox car. It might not be as comfortable or as quick. I think it is, but different people have different experience. But either way, there's no dude making notes. In fact, when there are dudes making notes by the side of the road, the car tries to hide you and protect you!
Or you can use the Safari car, if you get the more expensive garage I guess, whatever.
Why the fuck would anyone use the Chrome car.
EDIT: and the long term Firefox car dfivers say things like "they change how the car looks, might as well go to SpyCar." or "there was some pressure on CEO of FireCar making company for political stuff, might as well switch to SpyCar." And my mind just goes blank?
And the dude on the backseat laughs and laughs as he profiles them so he can manipulate them.
And all the browsers need you to sign in if you want multi device sync.
But switching to Chromium does none of that.
Also stripping Google's integration out of Chromium leaves you with a much less capable browser. Are you, for example, willing to use Chromium without Google's Chrome Web Store?
I don't think so. But say that you're willing to keep using Google's Chrome Web Store, Chromium is open source, but the Chrome Web Store is not and all those extensions, reviews and users can't be moved, so what will happen if Google decides to disallow access to its store to Chromium users?
If you think that can't happen, consider that they did it for AOSP Android and that alternatives to Google Play might as well not exist ;-)
If you're worried about Google's control of Chrome, switching to Chromium does nothing useful, the project is still under Google's control, you're still depending on their good will and you're doing nothing to diminish Chrome's dominance of the market.
What is a priority is building and extending the moat of GApps, locking services into relying on Maps APIs, push notifications, Play Games APIs, etc. Replacing these APIs is a huge task, and many apps will just outright crash if Google Maps isn't on your phone, let alone Google Play Services. The only reprieve is to use F-Droid, which is not the most consistently maintained app store.
Even if Chromium's source is developed by Google employees, it being open source at least allows it to undergo scrutiny with respect to end-user-unfriendly behaviour.
Any proof Chrome does this kind of tracking?
Google interest is not the web, it's its own profit.
This is necessary because the non-profit isn't allowed to do certain things, but a for-profit can, and the non-profit is allowed to own a for-profit.
But I like the analogy because I think people don't consider what online tracking means, and creepy dude on backseat is easy to imagine.
Personally, I have made an effort to try to turn things off in Chrome, because I felt it to be a superior product to FF. I switched to FF purely because I realized that my interests are never going to be aligned with Googles.
The problem is with the rate of change, and lack of UI stability. Can you disable WebRTC? You used to be able to with an easy flag, now its probably harder. Can you disable WebGL? Can't seem to w/o jumping through hoops. Why is Chrome looking at my USB devices? Can I disable WebUSB? nope. Disable Omnibox? Dont think so anymore. You used to be able to IIRC,etc, etc.
Google is never going to make it easy for you to stop sending data to them. An option of "Don't send anything ever, and don't ask me again" would be nice. More and more UXs are employing dark patterns where disabling is never an option, just 'deferring' or 'pausing'. (e.g. https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols)
Its hard to make definitive statements because Chrome keeps changing. Now, thats not Chromes fault, of course, but what rate of change is manageable? I don't know.
Firefox also has many features that make the web usable for people who aren't born with perfect vision and hand coordination. The plus is that these extensions make the web faster.
When I use Firefox, I feel like the browser belongs to me. Chrome feels like an Apple version of websites, mostly dumbed down and hostile to changes.
I will say that Chrome is unmatched for front end work, but that's a horrible reason to tell the average end user Chrome is the best browser.
The one annoying issue that I do get is occasionally Dev Tools will stop working for a window and I have to close and open the Tools windows. Outside that, no complaints on OS X.
(Firefox may have been slower on slow hardware, but that has never been an issue for me.)
The extensions in Firefox also have worked much better for me, all along. Even today, Chrome wouldn't restore tabs after crashing and relaunching, and this was after it asked me if I would like to restore tabs and I said yes. Chrome, to me, is nothing but a toy browser good for some single tabbed kiosks or a open-read-close model of use. For anyone who wants a browser for heavy use, especially with a lot of tabs, I would recommend only Firefox.
With multiple processes and being 64bit across all platforms, those particular complaints are gone.
While I'm delighted at their recent improvements, I still can't help but wonder if they are putting the ~500 million they get each year to good use.
There are still features in the browser that are quite lacking:
- history -> history viewer is still so ~basic~. most query constructs that could be run against the history db should be exposed through the UI.
I also think it would be great if I could see the path I took to a url history(e.g. linked browsing)
- sync isn't done. I feel sync should also sync settings* from about:config & extension settings. I also would like to see the upper limit massively bumped up from the Mozilla sync service.
These may seem like big asks but Mozilla is taking in 1/2 billion a year 
* for those settings where it makes sense to sync.
What makes sense for one person may not make sense for the next. That's why it's configurable: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Archive/Mozilla/Fir...
It takes a huge amount of money to build and maintain a modern web engine and browser.
Chrome has a lot of them as well as alternatives available and for me this is where I do consider jumping ship.
I completely understand FF wanting to change things up in the name of performance and modernising but I do feel they didn't really appreciate how important add-ons are to keeping people using it.
A lot of those add-ons are many years old but still had 1000s of users who suddenly were in the same situation as me.
Unless the situation improves, when the ESR expires, I'll be switching to FF forks permanently. E.g. Pale Moon. And there are others in the works, like Waterfox.
Try http://brave.com instead. They're actually developing a way to democratize ad revenue so that it is directed back straight to creators themselves. Innovative, hopeful solution for a salient long-term problem that everyone else seems to be throwing their hands in the air and shrugging over.
I want privacy-first browser. Period.
I also was backing Mozilla foundation (small sums) for 5+ years in hopes they will focus on browsers. They did not. They are cutting deals with ad serving companies, they are spending resources on mobile os, they are spending resources on VR browser and I don't know what else.
Good luck to them, but I want fast and reliable privacy-first browser and they are not that right now. Brave is.
One thing I do miss notably is Chrome's task manager. Being able to see which pages are spiking memory or CPU and kill or close them is super convenient if you've got dozens of tabs open and notice machine performance is becoming an issue. Is there anything like that out there for FF?
I've been using Firefox for the past 4 years and while the latest version is certainly the best thus far, even when Chrome performed "better" I'd still not use it for a myriad of reasons mostly revolving around the fact that everything Google does these days is crooked.
Author mentions the built in ad-blocker. Did you know Google also banned AdNauseum from the play store for no reason other than it is _too disruptive_ to the online advertising marketplace?
If I wasn't a professional web developer I wouldn't even have Chrome installed. Google can DIAF.
Has anyone else felt this too?
ff4life and all that but dev tools def slower
Here's the thing, Google doesn't have the authority to dictate what software you run on your computer. If you run a software that destroys their entire business model, tough cookies, they have to adapt or die.
Taking steps to control what software users install on their own systems in order to protect your little market share is evil, crooked, and probably illegal. It's the sort of thing that causes corporations to be broken up, for example, App Store, Chrome, Adwords, all need to be separated into unrelated companies to eliminate the blatant conflict of interest which has existed for years.
As an aside, this is evidence that advertising is dead. Technology that destroys the online ad model will continue to evolve and become more destructive and more disruptive. Attempts by corporations to censor free software because it challenges their revenue models is a display of desperation, fear, and inevitable collapse, if history has taught us anything on the matter.
Thanks to AdNauseum and any similar forks, no corporation in the world, no matter how large or wealthy, can guarantee that their advertising model is honest or functional. You should assume that whatever data they use to bill you is faulty.
> Here's the thing, Google doesn't have the authority to dictate what software you run on your computer.
No, but it can dictate what plugins are available in _their_ store for _their_ browser. Just use Firefox or manually install the plugins. They aren't stopping you completely, but when you're in their ecosystem you play by their rules.
> App Store, Chrome, Adwords, all need to be separated into unrelated companies to eliminate the blatant conflict of interest
Absolutely, and there are other competitors in this space. Google is too big at this point to spin those off.
> As an aside, this is evidence that advertising is dead.
It's not dead because there's no real valid alternative for the everyday website. A lot of users don't want to pay to browse your website past paying their ISP, and mining cryptocurrency isn't an option either. There was a project a little while back called F-U, Pay Me! by Datajoy (https://datajoy.us/fupm.html) that I wrote about that was a worthy replacement, but needs more traction to really take off.
> Thanks to AdNauseum and any similar forks, no corporation in the world, no matter how large or wealthy, can guarantee that their advertising model is honest or functional.
This is where advertising falls apart and it all becomes valueless, which I think is more destructive overall. Google offers a pretty good way of monetizing a website while they help themselves to analytics and a portion of the revenue. Google's AdSense getting shut down would mean (likely, speculation here) a lot of smaller hobby websites being killed off, and larger ones forced to gate access with a paywall. Ultimately, we need a DNS-based tip jar system, but that requires adoption. It's not impossible to run a website if you have a job, but if that website _is_ your job, you're out of luck.
I am. I liked their services for years, but reality crept in. They're rotten apples. The majority of news headlines about Google for the past 2 years have been scandals and crimes against the public.
> No, but it can dictate what plugins are available in _their_ store for _their_ browser.
No not necessarily. If Google's only business was a browser and an app store for it, then maybe. But that's not their business. Their business is infecting every corner of every market. They are _clearly_ abusing their position as a monopoly to influence the market in their favor. Which is a crime, in this country. A good question is why hasn't the breakup started already? Hell the only reason they invented that "Alphabet" nonsense was so they could avoid monopoly abuse charges! That is evidence of criminal intentions! They're also one of the worst offenders for moving money off-shore to avoid paying their taxes, and they lie about it when challenged. That is the behavior of crooks.
> Absolutely, and there are other competitors in this space. Google is too big at this point to spin those off.
With all due respect, if you think a corporation is "too big" to break up then you don't understand this topic at all. I recommend the story about Ma Bell, which I think was the largest corporate breakup in American history. Google will be broken up in time, if they continue on the path they're on.
> It's not dead because there's no real valid alternative
that's not how economics work.
> This is where advertising falls apart and it all becomes valueless, which I think is more destructive overall.
I would suggest that, rather than destructive, it is _disruptive_. We were born into this world, but Advertising has not always existed. It was invented by men who were looking for ways to put bread on their table when they have basically nothing of value to offer the world. I think disrupting that is great. It's great because it encourages healthy economic evolution, that isn't technically "Destructive". But it might appear so, the same way a natural forest fire might appear disruptive. But it's necessary for healthy new growth.
The free ATM machine that is online advertising is going to dry up, and everyone who was relying upon that revenue stream is going to suffer, unless they recognize the warnings NOW, and invent new revenue streams, the same way that some men invented Advertising so many years ago. We invented literally every single thing in the entire economy. It's called "Adapt or Die". And they will. You will. Everyone does.
Has anyone found a worthy replacement for Chrome's translation feature in FF?
> But I’m writing this in Firefox today for a very simple reason: cross-platform compatibility.... I need a browser that knows me as well on a Huawei smartphone or Lenovo ThinkPad as it understands me an on iPhone X.
Summary: Safari is actually great. Use Firefox if you use non-Apple devices.
This is a no-go for me as I have numerous websites secured with Yubikey and without this the browser is just "YT/Facebook viewer"...
As soon as this changes, I might give it another chance.
EDIT: Oh, FFS I just tried to look it up again and found property "security.webauth.u2f" which seems to be false by default. After enabling it U2F works! Geez, why would you disable that id default -_-
Every time there is some kind of update, either for speed, less data tracking, vpn, etc. I give it a try and always end up being disappointed, even on things that should be so obvious and simple, like scrolling. Even recent versions for FF on a brand new macbook pro, scrolling lags.
FF always has a great story that really makes me wanna switch, but I won't waste time for this one, sorry.
After running for awhile, Firefox slows my entire system down to the point there is a 250ms-500ms delay for every key press.
Despite all this I keep trying to make FF my primary browser, but wow it is hard.
I'm actually using Opera as my day to day, it has hotkeys that are just a little bit better than Chrome's, backspace still does what I'm used to it doing (going back a page) and the "jump to last tab" hotkey is super appreciated.
With performance degradation over time, it is hard to determine if it is hardware slowly fading, or software bloat running its natural course.
I should run a mem tester though.
Fwiw I can load the same page up in Opera or Chrome and it will smoothly play, while FF trips over itself in the background.
"Taiwan programmers working on Gecko, a core part of Firefox, lost their jobs, one person familiar with the layoffs said. That's global open-source work, in contrast to newer, regional projects coming from Taiwan"
On the contrary, for technically inclined users it's time to consider giving up on Chrome, Firefox, Safari and all the other locked-down anti-user walled gardens that violate software freedoms. I know this is a niche belief system but among the types that read hackernews more care than average.
Firefox held out much longer than most but the pressure at Mozilla to make it 'safe' for grandma (only add-ons signed by Moz) and 'safe' for consuming commercial media (DRM black box, no exceptions for research) won in the end. It has become Chrome if only in target demographic and feature prioritization. Just switching from Chrome to modern Firefox won't create the browser diversity argued for in this article.
Note the "Access your data on 5 other sites".
It decided to make its interface language not English. Now I cant set it back, the stuff recommended from the net does not work. this also underlines all the text I type in English.
Tab tearing is way better in Chrome.
Scrolling with a touch pad feels...odd. Its lagging a bit, somehow the physics are off.
That is my #1 reason for sticking to safari for now. That and I need to find out what extensions I need again after the switch to the new extension model.
The major difference with Firefox is that on some websites (namely Google Maps, Youtube, Twitch, sometimes Gmail), Firefox spikes my CPU usage/temperature/energy usage to absurd levels (I'm talking 90+ degrees celsius), so much so that I find Firefox unusable because I don't enjoy having a brick of near-molten aluminum in my lap whenever I watch a Youtube video. Chrome and Safari don't seem to have this problem.
If its in spitting distance of safari it'll be ok, i'm a pretty hard user of tabs though so would be nice to get back to tree style tabs. But sounds like it might be worth a go.
I'll give safari and firefox a comparison with the same tabs opened in a window and see how long it takes to get to some battery %. Chrome last time I checked with a comparison with the same kind of usage was over an hour less battery life.
But this is obviously impacted by what websites one goes to etc... so really impacted by my own usage really.
When Servo matures into something useable daily (it's almost there) we'll abandon firefox/gecko entirely.
I encourage everyone to try it for a full 5 days M-F and see if you feel the same way!
Hope that it is something which can be resolved eventually because it would be nice to not have to keep Chrome on hand for such occasions.
On the other hand, I find that when my fan is spinning up, it's usually because of tabs in Chrome.
So Mozilla are at least aware this is a problem for some users.
Curious what good new extensions come from it!
Why change a good thing?
I’ve gernerally been extremely happy with it. The battery life is not as good as Safari, but it feels faster. I do run into issues with some extensions, specifically google Meet (I think that is being fixed?).
The biggest annoyance, and I didn’t look too deeply at how to fix this, is custom cert mgmt. The system certs appear not to be used (I think?) and for custom CAs, they must be associated both in the browser and on the OS (macOS and Ubuntu). I’ve also noticed some sites cause, or did cause, very large CPU usage, Travis-CI was one.
Anyway, I’m generally very happy, and am glad that I now have a primary browser experience that I enjoy across all platforms. (If Apple had a safari version on Linux, this might have been a bigger question, I think they would do well to release one)
I use Chrome + LastPass, which has icons on desktop and autofill prompts on mobile. It's easy and integrated. The last thing I want to do is have to switch between apps, copy and paste each time I log into a web site.
There are also some cases when websites like thepiratebay.org refuse to open, At first, I thought this might be some Mitm or DNS based block set by the ISP but then chrome opens it just fine, Don't know what happened there.. :/
There are also some lazy developers like the one at Mashape who most likely don't test their website on Firefox because if they did, They'd know there Login/Signup system is broken on firefox for the last 7 months!
Ignoring few third party related issues, It's pretty good and I use it on both Android, Linux and windows.
During this time I kept running into reasons to keep FF besides the bookmarks:
- I have noticed Chrome isn't as speedy and responsive as it used to be.
- I found plugins that suspended unused tabs so I can have 40 open with minimum issue pre-FF Quantum and keeps memory usage down.
- There are other plugins that I couldn't find in Chrome's store, such as the SQLite browser. (Now I use DB Browser from the Arch repos.)
- Chrome's memory usage shot up over the years. It always used a lot of memory with all those processes to sandbox the tabs, but FF kept getting more features without so much bloating.
- I have seen a few sites that FF does not like, but I have also seen different sites that's didn't play well with Chrome too.
- Google's business is in ads and tracking-how long until they ban ublock origins?
However FF still has issues that were never solved or crept up:
- Website PDF printing on Linux is terrible-the websites look mangled while Chrome can take the same sites and print out a decent PDF copy.
- Chrome is usually first to have features that could be the future of the web. Subtitles for HTML5 video-webvtt. WebAssembly, I had to use Chrome to use FF's own webassembly tools because I didn't use Nightly.
- Chrome's PDF reader works better than FF's open source JS one.
- Pocket... back when it first announced I wondered why...? an organization committed to open source and open standards used a closed source service backend and if I remember at the time, a proprietary connection. It was the first time I considered going back to Chrome. I have an instapaper JS booklet that will save any page I am on to instapaper; does the same thing without an annoying little icon in my toolbar.
- Mr Robot... why......? This is the Orwellian worry I had that Google would do with Chrome. Never affected me, but did piss me off.
The Pocket and the Mr Robot were real issues to me that made me consider finding another alternative.
Note: while Chrome's PDF reader wasn't open in the beginning, it is now: https://pdfium.googlesource.com/pdfium/
I have no idea what causes FF to use 100% CPU, but it happens consistently, every single time I use FF for any length of time. Browsing Twitter will do it, YouTube will do it, eventually something will do it. Maybe it has to do with video? I don't know, and I don't have the time or (probably) the knowledge to try to figure it out.
Until/unless Firefox fixes whatever bug is causing this, I'm forced to stick with Chrome (which just works, hour after hour, day after day).
- drop the whole cartoonish nonsense, childish errors such as "Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site." should be swapped back to something more useful (or at least give me an HTTP error to look up on top of that stupid cartoon)
- quit pushing for pocket and other proprietary nonsense
- stop messing with user data to please tv series marketing teams
- stop babysitting the user with paternalizing "you've been using the computer too long" health-conscious snippets
Give me back the browser for nerds I need to get stuff done, make me fall back in love with FF.
(full disclosure: posted from FF)
Mozilla owns pocket and is in the process of open sourcing it. Some parts are already on GitHub.
It's been fine, really can't fault it. I don't really think about it to be quite honest, it just works.
So I agree with his decision but not his arguments or recommendations. They are just crap. The best way to protect your passwords is via a password manager that is not in plane text. Like Pass or Keepass. Pass is my fav as it is extremely portable.
Not sure if it's an option I've got configured, I'd love to find out what was causing this though!
Best things I've loved since I switched:
- Cookie AutoDelete, keeps a whitelist of domains and deletes the rest, which works nicely with:
- Multi-Account Containers: Create multiple cookiejars
- Decentraleyes: Caches JS files from CDN servers for faster loads.
For the record i've tried to move across for ad-blocking which Chrome doesn't provide, and I do need the account sync. Firefox is just as janky without any plugins on Android.
Since ad blockers on desktop have a pretty high penetration, what is going on on mobile? Does everyone really just browse on Android without blocking ads?
I've literally just installed the nightly version as opposed to the beta - no plugins, but sync is enabled. Scrolling on Twitter is a jank fest, not as bad as previously but I put that down to the adblockers I had on the beta.
"the best web browser" -- has no meaning without clearly identifying the criteria by which one considers anything best, worst, or any rating in between.
"If a friend were to ask me what the best web browser is, I’d answer “Chrome” in a heartbeat, so don’t mistake this as a screed against Google’s browser." -- because any deep criticism of a nonfree browser, or a nonfree browser from a spying organization would, by default, be a "screed"? No respect for freedom of speech here, and that's no way to treat your friends. This line and much of the essay comes off as a way to validate the idea that we need not consider anyone who looks out for their own software freedom, the software freedom of their friends and other computer users in general, or their (very much related) privacy interests. The allowable limits of debate are set: technocratic functionality (such as the effectiveness of an ad-blocker, vague notions of competition and "unhealthy growth" without mention of software freedom are considered right and proper to get into. Please restrict any discussion to such proprietor-affirming ideas. Anything outside these boundaries is "a screed against Google's browser".
"I still see it [Google Chrome] as the most fully-featured and trouble-free option for exploring the web." -- so this further reinforces the above: privacy is not a feature and the loss of privacy (where Google decides how much privacy to grant each user) is not to be considered a "trouble".
Nonfree browsers are unethical and problematic for the same reasons which apply to all other nonfree software: we need and deserve to control our own computers. This doesn't just apply to those who write software, but to all computer users. Therefore we all need the freedom to run, inspect, share, and modify published computer software (software freedom). Users who can't or won't learn to program can either choose to learn or get someone they trust to vet and improve software on their behalf. More technically-capable users can help everyone out by vetting and improving published software for their own sake. They can help their community by sharing their improvements under licenses that respect our software freedom. These are deeper more thoroughgoing reasons to reject nonfree software and run only software that respects your software freedom.
Other then that, it feels great and is improving.
There was a noticeable gap between the two browsers for several years. Not anymore.
The plugins to put my tabs on the side panel also kept me in the fold.
- NO bar above the tabs
- I CAN double-click to select independent word in url
- Double-clicking in URL bar selects a single word, at least on Firefox Dev Edition (version 60).
So what ever happened to that anyway? Has anyone noticed any ad blocking?
It was always Firefox for me.
But some videoa won't be played.
Also the scrolling on Android ia rather sluggish
Edit: It wasn't my decision to classify Firefox as a security risk. Just stating that in corporate organizations I have worked using Firefox is not encouraged at all.
I wouldn’t say “IE is the only widely supported browser in the enterprise.” Has just gave you theee examples of major enterprises that specifically don’t use IE.