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Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit?
154 points by FrozenVoid 10 months ago | hide | past | web | favorite | 123 comments
Reddit is pushing the new redesign which seems half-baked attempt at competing with facebook. What sites/forums can be considered as alternative to reddit or its parts?



Reddit scrubs the identity out of many communities/topics. I have found much deeper and meaningful discussion on focused forums. For almost any topic with any significant interest there is a non Reddit forum or community that is deeper and more customized. Not always, but usually. Just support those communities and forums. Example, mtgsalvation is by far better to visit for meaningful MTG deck building and discussion. Subaru forums are another great example. There are plenty of established communities out there.


Yep, you need to do your own aggregations, now a place to hold all my forum links and note/save them (similar to bookmarks but way more robust) would be pretty nice.

I've been forcing myself off Reddit and to search out specific forums and sites. It's an old (I meant odd) mix out there, some have obviously been using phpBB for years, some are brand new with lots of mechanics, and some are tied into other sites that have drastically helped my hobbies.

For Reddit, besides the time-sink/image click portion, it doesn't hold much water for indepth hobbiest communities.

The short life of a post and terrible search result in a large portion of each sub being the same post, iterated daily. You don't get around that with a forum BUT, and this is important, forums for these hobbies are often attached to sites specific laid out and updated so you see the bare basics before getting to the forum. Subs can have a sidebar all they want but it's clear a lot of people gloss over it daily.

EDIT: The more I think on it, the more Reddit has splintered into subs and their sidebars/communities just being single login web rings/forums.

Specific example, numismatics

There's /r/coins, coins4sale, papermoney, colonialcurrency, banknotes, maybe 50 more. In reality there's a few main ones which are easily grouped together on a dedicated site similar to Numista's forums


Agree Reddit is pretty bad for “technical” information that doesn’t change much over time (or that changes minute-to-minut). It is basically an unfiltered stream of consciousness.

Because of this, I like to think of Reddit as a deeper version of Twitter. It’s a fine source for discovery and can work ok for discussion, but the good content is usually elsewhere and there may be a lot of context you’re missing depending on who you follow (or what subreddits you read).

There is a lot of overlap between subreddits too; and while the sidebar content is often out of date, in many communities it serves as a repository of community knowledge to answer common questions, etc. This works well for communities already structured like this (the LGBTQ community on Reddit is a great example).

But yeah, I worry that the redesign is seriously screwing with the core DNA of the site and turning it into yet another MySpace-like content graveyard.


That is another interesting point. There are threads on some forums that are years old. How to replace thing X on your Subaru. Updates about MTG Deck Z. Whereas Reddit aims much more towards "whats happening". That's great but the forum aspect of having a deep conversation on a single topic over many days, weeks, and months can be really important.


It can be, though most forums comment systems could use HN/Reddit like threading. Paging and paging and having to have the reply blocks can be terrible, especially in long ones where they splinter into different conversations.


This can be true in a lot of areas, but honestly the LGBTQ subreddits (and to an extent tumblr) are far better than most community discussion sites. I’ve made a ton of real-world friendships that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise.

In some marginalized communities, there is a tendency for the most marginalized people to impose their needs upon the entire group, which drives away many others. As a result, many physical LGBTQ resource centers and online forums are the fiefdoms of a few people who are easily “triggered” and create strange rules to manipulate people. These places tend to be especially unwelcoming and intimidating to people who recently discovered their identity.

Reddit’s mod system (and the fact if the mods go nuts you can easily create a new sub) actually helps protect against some of this by allowing subs to avoid excessive moderation of “marginal” content (usually discussion that brings up legitimate issues that may upset some members of the group). It’s easy for users to join anonymously, so no fear of your family finding out that you’re trying to figure out your same-sex attraction.

Users also tend to gravitate toward the subreddits with the most permissible rules, then filter out into smaller, more specialized subreddits as their interests grow. To look at a subreddit as consisting of the subreddit itself is limited; you also have to look at the other subreddits it’s users post in to get a real feel for the “community”. Reddit allows these Venn diagram relationships between spaces and communities in a similar way to how they occur in real life.

Also, Reddit has a big advantage for marginalized communities in that the site admins are relatively responsive to (and has provided moderator tools for dealing with) harassment, and Reddit is large enough it won’t wilt under a sustained DDOS like many independent LGBTQ forums periodically do.

The forums I’m talking about are really more “community support” for people dealing with tough personal problems (both through actual conversation and shitposting of memes). Because it’s very easy for users to enter and leave communities, Reddit is fantastic for a community that by its nature is a bit of a “revolving door” (as many LGBTQ subs are).

All that said, the idea of independent “forums” is all but dead at this point. Existing ones will continue to exist, but new ones don’t exactly pop up anymore. The use case has largely migrated to Discord, which is even more difficult to discover because it’s not searchable with Google.


That’s great that reddit is so good for lgbtq communities.

How do you end up making friends in places like Reddit? Does it get started from noticing a person and then a PM being sent and talking through there?


> Reddit scrubs the identity out of many communities/topics.

In my experience Reddit moderators do this, not Reddit.

For some reason heavy handed moderation is now the norm across every medium-large sized subreddit. I don't know if it's a cultural thing, there's some top-down pressure, or the nature of the kinds of people who become (and stay) mods.

But I'm finding it more and more the case where mods feel the need to heavily regulate conversations/posting preemptively based on arbitrary personal worldview on what is 'good' content for the subreddit, instead of coming in to help when there's actual problems and situations where downvoting simply isn't enough.

Facebook and Twitter went down this road hard too, but at least they weren't doing it via "community leadership" but instead via the predictable slippery slope of centralized content controls.

Who knows maybe I'm spoiled by HN or naively expect large scaled up organizations/systems to stay as functional as they were when they were smaller. But I don't think it's always a lost cause, many big organizations have maintained high quality - given proper management and push-back against the negative forces which cripple large companies (such as becoming extremely risk adverse).


Reddit is also just too big. It's only a matter of time before a great subreddit reaches /all/ a few too many times and becomes a meme factory/circlejerk/battleground instead of something interesting. Then the mods start cracking down to try to keep the original subreddit spirit but it's too late by then.


Hey, I vouched for this post because it was interesting. For the record, you've been shadowbanned for some reason.


> But I'm finding it more and more the case where mods feel the need to heavily regulate conversations/posting preemptively based on arbitrary personal worldview on what is 'good' content for the subreddit, instead of coming in to help when there's actual problems and situations where downvoting simply isn't enough.

That seems like a fair description of Metafilter as well, which is a poster child of "moderation that works" in some quarters. At some point the moderation drifted to shepherding the conversation in particular directions, though that may be to appease users who'd cause problems if it went any other way.


The touch of moderation on HN is not always obvious right away, but it is definitely something that requires a lot of work to make HN the way it is. There are certainly biases and such here, they just happen to align with our world views usually.


One of reddit's strengths is that you could build a community within reddit, reusing existing resources and users. Its like an incubator for user-created forums. Compared to building and managing a forum, reddit provides much easier ways to create a community.


This part is what I don’t like.

I _dont_ want my social identities linked together.

Maybe I’m the odd one, but I’m constantly making new reddit accounts. I always just generate a random username and a random password, that I don’t store because I just don’t care or want to. I have different logins for all my devices because I don’t want people associating my reddit account with my personal blog and so on.


Agree, centralization is not a good thing. There is a wealth of indepth information and informed discussion on many forums and online communities, some of which are now 10 years and older. That knowledge cannot be easily replicated.

But many, perhaps focused on topics that young people would gravitate towards, are dying and it does seem newer generations prefer Youtube, Reddit and others over old style forums. But these also tend to be superficial with fleeting connections, a lot of trolling and bad behavior, with any kind of in-depth discussion usually not possible.


There are still great software like discourse for building communities. I think focused communities built around forums have plenty of room to grow as long as people keep building tools like Discourse.


Eh, I think a few of the replies explain why that may be true about certain subreddits, or more accurately the behavior of troublesome users, groups, or even mods therein, but can't say that's in any way backed up by the experience of many of the largest/regional/niche/meaningful communities either.

Recommend against generalizing (which is good advice to apply to indie boards as well). I could just as easily say phpBB scrubs the identity out of many (and frankly insofar as certain sets of smileys, signatures, and other craziness "defines" other communities, in a way...it does)


Well, I had specific things in mind. Example: it is hard to share deck lists on Reddit, but easy on mtgsalvation. This has a big effect on how those communities can evolve. So I agree that the tooling does help define the community to an extent. On Reddit, some of the time the tooling fits a community well. Other times not so much. That was my more my point.


That's correct, but it also depends on how deep you want to get into the topic. Sometimes this "free for all open air market place" suffices. The real pro's are hanging out on dedicated forums, though they're becoming harder and harder to find and new ones are not being setup/take off.

I would say that Facebook and Twitter also had their share of killing the classic forums, unfortunately. Which are a much structured way to find and organise conversations.


I use reddit for a single sub-reddit, soccer. I get to know about important news and view spectacular goals without having to go through clickbait news sites and hundreds of tweets. It saves me a lot of time.

If any of you have any good alternative to follow soccer please let me know. I want to get out of reddit too.


They seem so hard to navigate though. You’d have to scroll through hundreds of different threads and there’s no canonical area that says what’s new with x today.


That has always been the case, Reddit is just the mainstream dilution of any real community.


Vouching for this comment, because while it doesn't explicitly add anything anyone else hasn't said, there doesn't seem to me to be a reason to have it shadowbanned -- it's not a bad comment, just a commonly remarked one.

For the record, you've been marked as shadowbanned for the last 7 months.


There's actually a whole subreddit (somewhat ironically) dedicated specifically to Reddit alternatives:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/

That may have a few to check out.

However, I still agree that forums tend to have better communities than subreddits over all, and the specialised ones really outperform the ones on said services. If your interests aren't purely in a general/top level subject (like music/TV/games/sports as a whole), you'll probably find better discussions on specialised sites.

I've also noticed a fair communities using chat esque services like Discord now, and those seem to be a lot more active than subreddits are.

And well, if you're after tech stuff... you're already posting on the best Reddit alternative for that field.


There isn't one that's going to do everything that reddit does, honestly. You might want to consider breaking down everything you were getting out of reddit that you aren't anymore and pursuing ways to find those things again.

I recently realized that I was spending way too much time on Reddit, so I started only briefly scrolling through Reddit once per day without reading comments, and relying more on HN, twitter, and a few blogs for news. To feed that itch to belong to a community, I started commenting on HN more, and continue to go on JQBX and belong to a few slack channels.


Use https://i.reddit.com. It's basically the craiglist view of reddit built for mobile. Super fast and no fluff.


Redditors asked the admins to confirm they won't remove the old style plenty of times, and there is enough evidence the message came through--here's one [1].

You can uncheck the style in settings or switch between https://old.reddit.com and https://new.reddit.com for temporary testing. The settings also allow you to view the profiles in legacy mode separately.

For the tor browser the i. design ( same as https://www.reddit.com/.compact ) is the best, though, in particular since it's better not to resize the window.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/7ul5k9/hey_were_here_...


My favorite is https://ns.reddit.com ... and I use the Redirector Firefox addon to redirect all reddit links to this domain ... but of course that probably won't work for much longer


Made a quick url rewrite userscript: https://pastebin.com/A55FBKug


I still have to visit the www site sometimes because the compact one is missing a few features (like delete). They haven't done any maintenance on it for years.


Thank you for the link. I can read Reddit on my phone again.


Since there's a lot of talk about rss feeds on hn nowadays, you can also subscribe to any individual subreddit by adding "/.rss" to the end of the url (e.g. "reddit.com/r/subreddit/.rss"). I've been weaning myself off reddit, but there are some subreddits that I still want to follow, and rss is a fine compromise.



It seems highly unlikely that that will be supported for very long past the final launch of the new design.


I don't know - the "reddit disguised as work" site http://codereddit.com/ and the Android app Reddit is Fun have been running off the API for nearly a decade.


How long do you think the API will continue to exist? All of Reddit’s recent moves have shown me they finally realized that much of the DNA of the site (no account verification required, “questionable” speech being semi-tolerated, a dense UX that’s hard to cram ads into, portability, etc.) are what’s preventing them from monetizing. And they’re trying to monetize.

This is exactly the transformation Twitter went through. They changed the UX to make it more advertiser friendly, and when people started using alternate clients to get around it, they cut off the API.

Frankly I think the community will hate it but because it’s really hard to move millions of individual communities, Reddit likely won’t lose too many users.


> Frankly I think the community will hate it but because it’s really hard to move millions of individual communities, Reddit likely won’t lose too many users.

Is that really true? Didn't Reddit get big because Digg made some ill-advised changes and its userbase picked up and moved en masse to Reddit?


Reddit is much, much bigger now than Digg ever was; and there’s no viable platform for most to move to. Its communities are decentralized, and moderation is a function of the network, so Reddit as it exists is effectively the only thing holding them together.


>no account verification required

I keep hearing this but I made an account recently with no email verification. Recently as in one week ago. I put in a no email address actually. YOu can go sign up right now, leave the email field empty and hit next, you can do the whole sign-up process without an email.


Oh I know you can still do this; but the UX is deceptive about it. And one day they may just force the field to be “required”.

Anonymous posting is the core feature of Reddit, so if they kill that the site is dead. It’s also Reddit’s biggest problem with advertisers on two fronts: it prevents them from linking out to external DMPs for most users and it makes it easy to post content that is offensive to advertisers.


> a dense UX that’s hard to cram ads into

Not that it affects your overall point, but it's worth noting both that the new design has a rather nice 'compact' view, and that their new ad placement method (right in the post stream) could have been done with the old design.


https://raddle.me mostly lefties I guess

https://steemit.com ties into a crypto currency, you can get paid for content there


My team and I run Snapzu (http://www.snapzu.com), a which we started several years ago.

First off, the main reason there's no de facto "Reddit alternative" (Like Reddit was to Digg) is because it's nearly impossible to grow a community based around thousands of topics from scratch.

It's a massive "chicken or egg" dilemma where you need a steady flow of users (1000's per day or more) to provide the necessary community "value" to other users. And even then, the users are scattered all over the place with all kinds of different interests, making it hard to keep them around and coming back for more.

I've kept an eye out on all the competition that has come and gone (hundreds of them at this point), and most of them don't make it even one year before throwing in the towel.

Building a link-sharing/discussion platform is one thing (anyone can do it), but populating it with active people is a whole other beast and probably 100x harder, requiring routinely time consuming tasks such as blogging, promoting the blogging, and trying anything and everything to get the word out. This is where most people fail, and the saying "build it and they will come" is utter BS.

It also doesn't help that Reddit has copied (probably unintentionally) many of the things we added over the years to try and differentiate from them. We had their new "cross-posting" feature many years ago, but ours is named "mirroring" where you can add an existing post into other tribes (our version of sub-reddits). We also had the ability to add "related links" for years now, and I've noticed they added that feature to their "mega-thread" topics, and I'm sure they will make it a site wide feature soon enough.

Reddit gets millions of daily visitors from SEO alone, and all of that SEO is dependent on their user-generated content. For MANY search terms, you can find a Reddit link on the first page of the Google results.

At this point we've had to pivot (focusing on bloggers/creators and their audiences) because we understand that we can't directly compete with them.


At least pretty much everything that requires an invitation by another user is doomed to fail.


This one https://steemit.com/ is interesting... would be more interesting if the percentage of non-cryptocurrency-related articles were higher.


It has quite a reputation from back in the day, but I find Something Awful to have a very high level of dialogue, probably because you have to pay a small fee for membership, and they aren't afraid to probate/ban people.


Paid forums are niche area, it will not be a reddit alternative: the "filter" you describe is not geared towards maximum quality, but to enrich the owners of the site.

They have financial incentive to ban at the slightest provocation, restricting everything to safe and predictable "high-level dialogue" that can't challenge the status quo.

Reddit thrives on multiple levels of "dialogue" segregated into their own communities. Its pro-growth vs SA pro-elitist stance. Thats why SA will never be a reddit alternative.


Yep, SA obviously has a brand of humor, but the discourse on a huge variety of things is absolutely top-notch. Active moderation keeps the riff-raff out.


SA is still my go-to when I'm looking for some random stranger's advice on a topic. Bonus points because I think humor is a good thing to have included in any subject, including serious discussions.


Usenet.

It's a shame it's been mostly abandoned.

In so many ways it was reddit long before reddit even existed, and was superior to it in so many ways.


Yeah, it's mostly used for piracy now.

It's a shame.

alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die will never be forgotten.


> alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

Thanks for reminding me of that.

That got me thinking that there should be a subreddit for old internet stuff. And, of course, there is: [1], though sadly this is almost all memes from the early web days, not pre-web. There's also [2] and [3], but they mostly seem to focus on current BBS and Usenet needs, not on the BBS' and Usenet of the pre-web days.

There's also:

[1] - https://www.reddit.com/r/AsOldAsTheInternet/

[2] - https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/

[3] - https://www.reddit.com/r/bbs/


Isn't that mostly a result of UI/UX problems? IRC has fostered a good community of tooling. But the content side of Usenet seems to have been completely ignored, outside of file sharing.


What UI/UX problems does Usenet have?

My impression was that Usenet was abandoned mostly because it had a ton of spam, and at the time there was no good solution to that.

These days, spam is not nearly as much of a problem, so the only obstacles to its adoption of it are most users' ignorance of it, their psychological dependence on their web browsers as their primary online communicaton tool, and most importantly the network effects of reddit and other web forums being much more popular.


It's also really hard to get into. If you just download a news reader, read the manual, and go onto a random forum, you'll find a lot of weird early-2000's spam, and maybe some (crazy) discussion, and it's really hard to find active communities.

People who live there don't have these problems because they have big kill lists, know which groups are interesting, and only download new stuff, which is pretty spam-free.


Spam killed it, I think.


There is also a subreddit dedicated to alternatives https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives


Oh,right yes ofcourse there's a subreddit for that...


https://steemit.com/trending/

Where you should be able to turn your good karma back into something you can use to buy food.


How its not filled with paid ads? The platform seems interesting technically, but what prevents them from being swamped with promoted content/ads/blatant spam?


You can always use a third party app. That works around any website redesigns.


I actually read reddit with custom CSS filters and filtering userscripts(which redesign (obviously) broke), i don't want a mobile app expirience.


I expect that we'll soon see a handful of browser extensions that try to fix the redesign.


Its weird but Ive gone back to Digg. Really interesting articles without the twitter-like commenting. Ive gone full circle it seems.


I mentioned Digg to a friend of mine the other day and he said "Oh, is that still a thing?" I didn't realize that it was a thing to put Digg down. It and HN are the two sites I go to in the morning to pick up news. HN I also go to in the afternoon. Digg works really well for keeping me up to date on newsy things.


I've been lurking and reading here for many years and have finally found the place to jump in.

I want to submit https://postwith.me for consideration. Our Twitter profile (@postwithme) describes it as: "Building a better social community through civility, data privacy, and a meaningful exchange of ideas."

I wrote it as a side project over the past several months and then launched it a few weeks ago when the Facebook stuff was happening. It's getting a fair amount of traction and increasing engagement. We are still way within the "do things that don't scale" phase.

From a tech standpoint, it is completely serverless. S3/CloudFront hosting a React front-end (React Native apps almost done), API Gateway with Lambda functions, DynamoDB and Redis.

Happy to answer any questions about the site or the tech stack.


* Voat.co * Quora.com * Slashdot.org


Slashdot and voat are full of the beardiest necks on the Internet.

Quora is also showing signs of hardening of the arteries in its old age ... not really fun places to go to if you're not fully indoctrinated in the groupthink.


I used to be a big fan of Quora but there seems to be a lot of spam and deliberately provocative "political statements designed as questions" on there these days. If it hasn't jumped the shark already it's certainly going through the motions.


I still am a big fan of Quora. There are a lot of great engineering and maths question/answer threads I enjoy reading on there when they show up in my inbox.

But you're absolutely right that more and more I'm receiving notifications of questions like "What do Liberals do for fun?" "Why do Liberals hate Donald Trump so much?" etc, etc etc.

Obvious trolling to spark anger, snark, or vitriolic response. It's toxic, and a damned shame.


Every week I still get a Quora Digest email, and every week, if I glance at it, I find myself asking "seriously, are these really the best there is?"

I'm sure they're algorithmically picked, but it seems to be heavily polluted with things phrased as questions that are really just rants/complaints, political provocatism, naivete, bragging and showing off privilege (interestingly, frequently tied with seemingly being very naive); the ones that depress me the most are questions being asked by people who clearly must have been incredibly sheltered and repressed. For some of those, I am glad there's a place like Quora for people to actually get those questions answered, but Quora itself doesn't seem to be great at highlighting interesting questions.


"Slashdot and voat..."

Slashdot yes, but I would have to disagree on Voat being an old-timer hive.


You can have young neckbeards.


Screw this [insert decision of reddit admins], I'm going to Voat!

The only problem with voat is it's probably the Mos Eisley of the internet now, since every time reddit kicks out the racists or the fascists or the bullies they all say they're going to voat.


Unfortunately, Voat suffers from a problem that all "free speech" platforms do: the extreme, obnoxious behaviour of mainly national socialists and paedophiles drive out all normal, tactful users...leaving only very fringe and distasteful users. It's practically unusable because of its hands-off moderation.



Hubski! I knew there was one I was forgetting.

Also, thanks for the Snapzu and Soylent mentions, those are new to me.


What about https://raddle.me/ ?


You can use the https://Lobste.rs codebase from https://github.com/lobsters/lobsters . Before I became the sysop of Lobsters I used it to start https://barnacl.es and the GitHub wiki has few more sister sites. Drop by #lobsters on Freenode if you need help getting it running.


Just use 4chan


Use it through the Clover app for a much better time.

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.floens.chan/


Or use https://indiachan.com/ An indian chan inspired by 4chan.


We apologize for our weirdo admin. We have no idea how he got out again


Being Swedish, i love Flashback.org - Ir's the best since unsliced bread you can slice yourself.


You know there is a compact view similar to old design right ?


Use a reddit mobile app / site alternative which serves your use case better? The official site/app is far from the only option.


Your option... I wouldn't call it alternative to be fair :) is against the expected feelings in this comments section. But it's very reasonable. People that visits subreddits can discuss what to do, either stay with the help of some tool or move to greener pastures.


Steemit, upvote via tokens and make money by getting upvotes.

Already alexa rank 1000


Is Steemit using an incentivized blockchain structure (like the "cryptocurrencies" Bitcoin, Ethereum's Ether et al; Pyramid-Ponzi scheme), where the value/cost to purchase their tokens increases with demand or based on a price someone sets?

If it's running on incentivized crypto-asset structure then I personally feel unless you're wanting to take advantage of uneducated/unaware population, whereby as the value/price of the crypto-assets go up then society's wealth is unreasonable/unnecessarily reallocated weighted towards the earliest adopters, then I personally won't be using such services. I started to read their whitepaper and it looks like they're attempting to create a "stable coin", however those inherently seem to have similar problematic issues.


I made a reddit alternative that focused on removing the power from moderators. It never really took off, although I do keep it up at this point. https://linkgum.com


really late to the party here, but https://headcycle.com


You could always spend your time on StackExchange!



usenet


lobste.rs is more of a HN replacement, but there you go.


Very nice to see it getting popular since i've last seen it. Seems even more on-topic tech discussion than HN.


Love lobste.rs! Their April fools gag was to reskin the whole site as a PhpBB board circa 2004...


yours.org


fark.com


np.reddit.com


I suggest Voat.


The request was for a reddit alternative, not an alt-right reddit


Ctrl-F "digg", no results. LOL. rip


I get more value out of the modern Digg than I do the modern Reddit. If someone reading this hasn't been to Digg in years, it isn't in the up-down-vote format but rather a few curated articles and funny clips as the day goes on.

It is different enough from modern Reddit that I wouldn't call them competitors anymore.


Anyone interested in alcohol/tobacco is going here https://speak-easy.club/


Other then here, Voat is the best overall. Their source is on GITHub if you want to roll your own.

https://github.com/voat/voat

If you want to do your own Reddit here are some clones, largely PHP based:

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/77bhdx/phpbased...


I spent 5 minutes on voat before realizing that it is Fox News in reddit form


Yah that place is cancer. I just took a quick peek inside of /v/politics and noped out. I'm an advocate getting balanced news, but this place is clearly heavily biased. I'm not saying Reddit is balanced either, but a bit more so than Voat.


/v/politics is just as obnoxious rightwing as /r/politics is obnoxiously leftwing. Belonging to a side desensitizes you to it.


/r/politics is definitely not leftwing in any real sense. It's more like distilled American centrism: socially permissive but ultimately capitalist.


> Belonging to a side desensitizes you to it.


Isn't Voat infested with the_donald refugees?


Enough to say that if someone's looking for a reddit replacement because they don't want racism, voat is not the answer.


There is probably a niche for which a stripped down HN-like forum with moderation but for general discussion might be moderately successful.. moreso if it provides a robust API that allows for third party clients.

Maybe self-hosted forums will make a comeback.


I don't think self-hosted forums ever left, really. But it's like IRC versus modern messaging apps; there's been a huge amount of inflation in terms of what user base "success" is supposed to look like.


It would seem so.

Here's a selection of post titles currently on the front page of voat.co:

- Syria chemical attack was false flag operation by US

- Didn't some vegan, muslim, woman shoot up youtube a week ago?

- A heavy redpill from a man who knows what he's talking about.

- Congressional Dick Pics


voat is also where all /r/fatpeoplehate posts went when reddit banned it


Yup it's basically reddit for the alt-right and banned subs... not exactly the place most people want to be


It kind of is, but like Reddit, you make you're own frontpage, you have to find the right communities for you!


Voat is utter shit.

The default greeting/nickname on that site for other users is nifa. How is that okay at all?


> nifa

What is nifa? I am guessing it isn't the National Institute of Food and Agriculture and other organisations that come up on google.

nvm, found it apparently: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nifa


That voat repo is not updated since december 2017. Is this still actively worked on, but in private, or did the devs abandon the project?


It is still actively being worked on. It just recently converted from Microsoft based software to open source throughout. The work is fairly slow because there are only a couple of devs.




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