- The market is extremely tough. Maybe you noticed how much advertisment squarespace and Wix do. The reason being that these pages typically have small businesses as customers. The issue with these type of businesses is that they go away quickly. Most don't survive 6 months. So you need new customers all the time to keep up with the high churn.
- You do not have price dominance. The price is very competitive and companies with huge backing (like Squarespace / Wix) will dominate you.
- The intended target audience is actually not that keen on doing everything themselves. They don't know about online marketing, SEO, or other "special skills". Actually, they just need someone they can call when they have an issue.
- Developers and agencies prefer open systems like Wordpress, Gatsby, or others. They also value a vivid ecosystem of plugins and themes. They typically don't commit to proprietary software, because you never know how long it will be around.
In any case, I wish you the best of luck with the product. It looks nice! I hope you can use my experiences to advance your business.
This market is huge. If you can carve out a niche somehow you can do fine and not everybody needs to become the next SquareSpace.
I would intuitively estimate that about 15% of educational youtube videos are sponsored by Squarespace.
We go on web-dev related and business start up websites, and google is watching us.
I wish more ad providers had a way to say "please show me more ads like this." Better yet, I wish there was one that had a box where I could just type random complaints about my life and over time it would show me ads for products that might be relevant.
1. It is $4 a month (that's a lot for a really a simple static page)
2. Vendor lock-in. These sites come and go and might not be around in a couple of years.
This is why I recommend Hugo hosted on netlify. Sure, it has a learning curve (but plenty of open source themes make it fairly easy).
Hugo spits out plain HTML so there is no lock-in, and netlify hosts for free. If Netlify goes away, I can host somewhere else.
I'm not a frontend web guy at all so I'm trying to avoid doing as much of that work as possible. Wordpress seems like it would be pretty much perfect, but for the life of me I can't get it working with docker and HTTPS. All of the solutions involve editing some php files that are easy enough to edit without docker, but I would probably have to make a custom docker image to make it work in a container. Bleh.
Ghost is OK but it has like 0 customization and the themes are all 4 years old and no longer work properly.
In any case what I'm getting at is I'd happy pay like $50 or $60 for a simple CMS thing that has some themes and whatnot, but I want to host it myself. And I don't want to pay monthly for it.
Thanks for the Hugo suggestion, I'm checking it out now. I had never heard of it before.
Open source here: https://github.com/csi-lk/csi.lk
Blog link: https://csi.lk
Why use them, when you can use plain html ?
Well, its because they come with nice features like componentized layouts and templates, optimized build (including minification of any js, etc) and most importantly content in markdown/yaml for easy editing.
Edit: Also, kudos for having such easy, frictionless access to the demo. I also really like the structural parity between the desktop and mobile versions.
Edit2: How are you picking which version (desktop/mobile) to show? Are you doing some kind of sniffing, rather than relying on media queries? I'm not getting the version I expect when I change the viewport's size in my DevTools: Chrome always gives me the mobile version in responsive mode, while Firefox always gives me the desktop layout unless I spoof a device's user agent string...
Right now I need to serve slightly different markup depending on mobile or desktop, so I can't rely solely on media queries. I will however try to move it that direction once I figured a few things out.
Thanks for your feedback!
This one looks like it's going for the Squarespace/Wix market.
I think what matters the most in that space is getting out of the box with a very nice looking template - Squarespace excels there! (heck, their current landing page says "Make it beautiful"). And they have a nice logo creator.
This one doesn't seem to have that much design in it. On the plus side, it does say "No signup to try out" (that's a huge plus, hope spammers don't abuse it) and "simplest", which is what I expect your target audience to like.
Edit: on the builder, I think you should emphasize starter templates more.
(I started building a site and put in a form, only to be told that was a paid thing. Closed the whole thing and immediately came to write this.)
It's an effective way of removing friction.
I would far rather see what I CAN'T do up front so that I can decide whether that feature is really worth $$$ to me, or whether I can work around it somehow.
Doesn't seem expected.
Android 8 + firefox 58.0. 2 + https everywhere & ublock origin extensions.
These naysayers are silly. The amount of investment you put into it will undoubtedly be offset by the passive income you generate with it, not to mention the fun/learning you did while building it.
After playing around with it for a few minutes, I found some issues:
On Firefox, from a Clean State, add a Row, add Text, click H2, type some text, hit space, try to type more text: the space disappears
On Chrome: I don't seem to have full control over text spans. While I can use b/I/U/S on the current text selection, I was unable to set any other style attributes just for the selected text (i.e. what should boil down to a span tag), i.e. I wanted different colors for parts of my text.
Keep on hacking and I hope you'll have success!
Also, going directly to lonelypage.io doesn’t work.
- I can't figure out how to change the image in a template, close to giving up
- more templates please
- and maybe more content in the templates (easier fill in or delete content than to figure out how to add new sections and content)
- I didn't read site that closely (who does), do I get the generated html etc? I'd like to host myself
- the "pick a palette" is great
For sure, no need to worry about that!
Am I the only one having this problem? Because except this website I don't have trouble browsing any other.
P.S: I'm using Chrome Version 64.0.3282.186 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Reading this far to comments I've gathered it's some sort of landing page generator?
I wish people would at least include a short description that one could read.
Too many submission to HN just land you on an empty page if you don't feel like executing their JS. I wish they would just put an accurate description to the submission as well.
I usually just skip and move on but I guess the address was enough to poke additional interest this time around.
Don't think twice about contacting me :)
Some usability feedback: Adding a new element to the page (+) is the first action and it was hard for me to find it. It's likely also one of the most frequent functions you'll use, so I think this button should have way more relevance, at least on the same level as "Save".
He realized the world didn't want another site builder, so he just reviews all of the existing site builders. Pretty genius.
Once a page is built and live, can the user then save the HTML and host it on their own server? (leaving the by: lonelypage logo at the bottom)
In case of https://lonelypage.io the cert isn't for the correct domain....
Now if I were to give you one piece of advice I would say, find a niche or a couple of niche industries that have specific needs and sell to them.
This can be anything from setting up an event and taking payment for it to creating a local sports group.
The submit form zooms in on mobile (iOS). To avoid that the font size needs to be set at 16px.
Where's the button create my own page? How can I test your product? Is your product scam?
IPFS is not magic in that regard: if whoever is your origin disappears, then your data is likely to disappear at some point, especially if it's not super popular.
There is no free lunch: you either become your origin yourself, or you pay someone else to be.
Or you could just host it on your own devices, so long as you're okay with it only being reliably accessible so long as at least one device is up and running.