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if you ever had your milk go splat on the pavement after it went right through your plastic bag, then yeah, its not enough.

There are amazing fabrics today that can solve this; one called cotton and another called nylon.

Plastic bags hold about 20-30 pounds, how much milk are we talking?

Many US supermarkets use very thin plastic bags. I'm guessing 0.5 mil []. They're noticeably thinner than the type you (used) to get from UK supermarkets. This site suggests that "reusable" type would be > 2.25 mil.


Plastic bags can easily tear with just a small box being sideways and its corners cutting into the bag...

Depends on the type of plastic bag. If we're talking Walmart grade plastic bags then those are not going to hold 20 pounds. You'd be lucky to hold 10 pounds with those terrible bags. Safeway bags, thought? Those are crazy thick and strong and could easily handle 30 pounds.

For metrics units users, that's 9-14 kg.

Why not bring your own (non-plastic) bag though?

... we forget.

Glad to know you're helping bring down the average though

> ... we forget.

My technique is to always have such bags in my bags so that I never go anywhere without having them on me. Redundancy :)

Do they sell cloth bags in the shops?

If shops stopped selling plastic bags people would figure out a solution.

And if social media companies were legislated out of business people would figure out solutions to staying in touch and we'd avoid all the zombies we're creating [1].

But then we cease to be a liberal (as in live and let live) society.

[1] I for one despise being in the company of someone on their phone while we're talking in the same way that others can't seem to forget the plastic tidal pool in the oceans.

I also walk and ride so the addictiveness of social media is literally a mortal danger to me in a way plastic bits aren't

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