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djburiedalive 1331 days ago | link | parent

What's not worse about it?

If a landlord raises the rent on a 400 square foot space, they're simply asking more money for it the same space. If a tenant wants to pay that price for 400 square feet, that's his choice.

On the other hand, if the landlord claims it's 420 square feet, no matter how much he charges per square foot, the tenant is paying for something that simply doesn't exist.



tptacek 1331 days ago | link

Landlords can phrase things in terms of $/rsf, but the lease specifies a monthly flat rate. It can't change until the lease expires. What am I missing about the bind this puts tenants in?

I get the semantic dishonesty, but not the practical issue.

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praptak 1331 days ago | link

Searching for offers, as explained in the article. The nonexistant square feet put the offer undeservingly high in the sqft/$ order which is what many tenants search by.

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tptacek 1331 days ago | link

That's silly. It's unethical like SEO is unethical: annoying, but hardly damning. There must be something more to it than that.

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praptak 1331 days ago | link

Yeah, but the SEO might cost you a click while such an offer might cost you a physical visit to a crappy office.

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tptacek 1331 days ago | link

Again, this is pretty silly. If an agent led me into a bait-and-switch situation (ie, something advertised as 1400 rsf turns out to be a closet), I'd simply never use them again.

In practice, though, total moot point: the last time I looked for office space (earlier this year), the first agent I called sent me scaled floor plans for over 100 places. There were rsf numbers to go with them, but the dimensions of every office were right there.

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pbhjpbhj 1331 days ago | link

SEO is not inherently lacking in ethical fortitude - I find that suggestion offensive. You might as well say all lawyers are corrupt or all financial advisers are swindlers.

Lying about the objectively measurable characteristics of your product is wrong.

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tptacek 1331 days ago | link

This is the #2 result on the serp for [how to cook a great tasting steak]:

http://www.wikihow.com/Cook-a-Great-Tasting-Steak

"Take your fork and jab the steak with it. Don't jab it so hard that it gets stuck in the steak, though. Keep tendorizing the steak until it is like pudding. Make sure it stays together, though."

Sorry I managed to offend you, but you work in a field that tends towards grey areas, so maybe invest in some thicker skin. (Hey, look at my field!)

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patio11 1331 days ago | link

Every time I read Wikihow and eHow, I think "I am so glad I wasn't a credulous Middle American retiree googling their medical symptoms.". If your chest hurts, apply honey with Tylenol crushed up into it!

(Non-SEOs may not realize, but health is in the top five categories for search volume on some networks.)

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pbhjpbhj 1330 days ago | link

>Sorry I managed to offend you ..

I find it offensive because you're wrong and the people here are modding you up. I'm not crying into my soup or anything.

;0)

Thanks for your caring comment though.

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mfr 1331 days ago | link

There are mechanisms by which a landlord can raise a rent inside the bounds of a lease. In my experience, multi-year leases have "elevator clauses" that either allow for pre-negotiated upwards adjustments in price based on property tax, CPI, or other measures.

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djburiedalive 1331 days ago | link

What if I paid for 420 sq. feet and actually needed 420 sq. feet, not 400?

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tptacek 1331 days ago | link

I assume you've rented in NYC. We do, and in Chicago. This is not complicated; landlords will tell you usable sqft, and give you accurate floorplans.

Besides, who rents based on a sqft number? You always visit and work out the space before signing. It's not eBay!

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pbhjpbhj 1330 days ago | link

Don't you get to sue them for fraud if the area figures have been inflated by 5% to purposefully deceive?

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