Sure there is a "show" menu item but who really clicks on that?
Which means most of us only find out about show HN projects ONLY IF they come up to the front page, or if we're constantly scanning the /newest page.
I've seen a lot of interesting projects just get buried for no reason. You could say "just keep posting until it gets traction", but anyone who's built and posted something on HN knows this is really stressful and easier said than done, because most people--no matter how much they believe in their own project--don't want to spam the site they like.
Wait, you won't get in trouble for sending duplicates? I was always under the impressions that mods were pretty strict about one-and-done. Goes to show me I guess.
Edit: Huh. Went back and read the rules, there seems to be nothing against it... It seems like what I thought was "one-and-done" was more "as a guideline, to be well-received, don't submit the same thing often"
It is a practical way to give second chances without giving too much room for spamming. The fact that you didn't even know it was allowed seems to prove that it works.
What is not ok is to delete your own former posts to pretend you are posting for the first time.
With this perception in mind, my own personal rule is if my first post does not get too much traction, I post a second time, 10~12 hours later (to get a different audience). Usually, I stop, sometimes when I am too optimistic I post a third time a couple of days later. And then I give up and stop posting.
You can clearly see this pattern in my submission history.
6400 people yesterday.
I click everyday. The Show HN section is much more interesting than the frontpage.
I don't know what the DAU of HN is, but I don't think 6400 out of the entire HN community is a large number.
Show HN is in my opinion the most interesting part about HN, and deserves more exposure IMO.
I think it's just blind luck, mostly.
I've also wondered if posting on an otherwise slow day (Sunday?) would be a good idea (less competition) or a bad idea (fewer eyeballs).
It will be awesome to not just provide feedback that is 'shallow', i.e. sentiment, but to make it easier to provide more constructive feedback.
Perhaps dig into the past 100K comments on Show HN's, categories them, and make it easy to put a large set of them. Leaving comments for more detailed discussions.
One challenge though is that development.kitchen is pulling content out of HN in this way. It might be handy if you had a browser extension that injected the content back into the site so that people could easily see existing feedback.
Since this is mostly a UI improvement attempt, I guess you're basically just competing with https://news.ycombinator.com/show?
My biggest issue with this approach is it seems like a "poll" of arrows isn't really going to give enough useful feedback to be meaningful. If I've taken the time to actually review a Show HN, I'm not going to skimp out on the feedback phase by using a 1-click option. I'll probably have 3-5 paragraphs to write out.
Psychologically, it seems a bit rude to leave just a down arrow on someone's best effort project without explaining it. An up arrow alone seems fine. Of course, HN already has these built in.
If you want quick-hit feedback, can you also include a textbox for typing a quick note in addition to the short reasons already there?
A popup bar alerting about cookie usage is extremely off-putting to me and was almost enough to get me to just close out of the site before doing a review. If there is anything you can do to stop using so many cookies that you need to warn users of them....
The entire list isn't that long, can you get a deeper backlog? The /show page lists them chronologically which seems pretty nice to me since then a DevelopmentKitchen user can always pick up where they left off. You're currently sorting them some other way and it doesn't quite make sense? If I'm going to use JUST this site to monitor Show HNs, I'll want to know which ones I've seen and which I haven't.
I can understand the feeling about the depth of feedback here. And I agree when I have felt compelled enough to give feedback on an idea, usually it had a bit more depth than a reaction allows. As a creator, I also agree getting feedback as prose would be better. But this comes from having been on the other side and having posted a few things we've worked on to Show HN and to Product Hunt, and a few other sites and having gotten no feedback. I do understand that no reaction is a reaction in itself but you are left in a place of having no idea why it isn't working. So this is genuinely an experiment to see if making it easier to react will lead to at least some feedback, light in depth as it might be.
And we'll continue to experiment to see if we can improve the depth while still making it easy. A quick-hit feedback text box is a good idea. We'll play around with that.
The cookie usage notices is a requirement for companies based in the EU - doing analytics as we are does require tracking at some level, we can probably do better.
We just reset the HN import from the API today for launch - it should grow longer over time. We'll look at going backwards though that isn't supported by the official API afaik. You're right we do need to improve how we sort them so it matches HN more closely - right now it sorts by day, and the top stories in that day.
It's probably my fault for posting them late in the day.
It was frustrating to see my library slide down the "new" page while a bunch of posts from news sites filled the top.
Edit: Talking about I am gonna post one now.
Sometimes comment, sometimes don't, depends...