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rightfully so, i use my hotmail for junk too. its a crummy service compared to like gmail. hotmail pretty much lets most spam through to the inbox



If Hotmail uses the same backend as Outlook, I cannot agree; I've never felt like I've gotten spam of any kind.

Today, e-mail spam seems to bee a solved problem from my own user perspective. The next big thing to tackle is telemarketer phone spam.


> The next big thing to tackle is telemarketer phone spam.

Even tried to use a new number, worked for a year or two and it got leaked to some telemarketer.

With the effort involved to change my number again. I decided to try a new tactic; waste their time.

They call me, I identify it is spam(eg first name instead of real name) and ask them to hold and then go silent/ghost until they hang-up.

I feel guilty to hear "sir, sir, voice of despair sir... beep beep beep" because I worked in a call center and understand these guys just want to make a living. I tried to be nice and asked my number to be removed, no luck.

I engage and then waste their time and now suddenly I stop to get telemarketer calls?! On a side-note I feel like I started to receive more SMS spam. So I'm now at the point of wanting to opt-in so that they can call me to waste their time. _sigh_


> Today, e-mail spam seems to bee a solved problem from my own user perspective.

Honest question.. how long have you had the email addresses you're using for comparison?

I've had the same email for the past 12 years, corporate, and now moved into O365. It's _average_ for spam filtering as far as my subjective experience goes.


Same email for past 8 years, all (100%) of the spam goes directly into the spam folder where it belongs.

Marketing emails go into "promotions" - but I could probably unsubscribe from those if I wanted.

The only messages in my inbox are either from real people or are otherwise notifications I want to get.


> hotmail pretty much lets most spam through to the inbox

At the same time they are one of the most difficult email providers to deliver transactional emails (eg. email address confirmation) to.




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