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Google Plans to Vet YouTube Premium Video Content (bloomberg.com)
37 points by tareqak 9 months ago | hide | past | web | favorite | 22 comments

I don't know how many people (contributors) they have in these preferred channels --maybe they have overwhelming numbers so they have to throw unspecialized bodies at the issue.

My feeling is that at some point they will manage the top tier of their premium contributors more like traditional content production. Idea people, writers, producers and someone who vets the output yay/nay and takes full responsibility for the release of the content. None of this "the views of [contributor] do not represent the values of our company" BS.

Of course, that means more money, less profit but would make things for advertisers palatable.

This seems like a defensive no brainer for youtube though. The classic cable business model is to get subscribers by financing top content that brings in viewers. If Disney opened a 'Mickey Tube' tomorrow with exlusive access to all the late show clips, several well-financed existing youtubers then how much of youtubes viewers would pack up and move over?

So really this looks like Youtube maturing into a more traditional media business model. Of course they still have the risk that they suffer from the myspace phenomenom. Not sure they're really preparing or considering that.

"the company recently announced it will have 10,000 employees focused on the task"

I can't wrap my head around that number. How can that be true?

Here's the citation, from the Official YouTube Blog:

"We will continue the significant growth of our teams into next year, with the goal of bringing the total number of people across Google working to address content that might violate our policies to over 10,000 in 2018."


Contractor, like Call center employees. Probably from outsourcing firms. And, this number seems...low? Considering the sheer amount of videos upload even just from partners.

I guess those platforms are growing so large and influential, censoring is inevitable now.

Casually calling contractors employees to the press seems like a decent way to open yourself up to a employment status lawsuits.

The "employee" word is not mentioned in Google's post a single time.

This article made the round years ago and claims there were already 100,000 distributed across the world employed by Google, Facebook and other social networks. https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

"Google told partners that it plans to use both human moderators -- the company recently announced it will have 10,000 employees focused on the task -- as well as artificial intelligence software to flag videos deemed inappropriate for ads."

They will record decisions people make as training examples and will use it to train ML models.

Maybe most of them are not exactly google full time employees?

I would speculate most of these employees are outsourced workers from countries like the Philippines (see for a recent discussion of this: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/03/comme...)

Mechanical Turk.

This is a strange headline, because the whole premise of Google Preferred is that it IS vetted. Now Google is admitting that it... wasn't? Or at least rarely.

Google's entire tradition of content moderation has been to have accounts with privileges and then add/remove those based on content produced. Google Preferred wasn't a set of videos you could advertise on, it was a set of content creators you could advertise with.

There was a watershed early last year when they realized that a relatively tiny number of videos could be picked up by traditional media and used to beat up youtube in the press. So now they're moving away from that. They're going to moderate every video.

That started with the low cost: everything monetized goes through the iron fist of the Youtube demonetization wizard.

Now for the high end content they can't treat people like that - because top talent has leverage. So the more the content is worth, the more they'll spend on QA. The fundamental doesn't change though - they're moderating the content not the creator anymore.


Well, when we say "you", we mean more like "we".

Or, if you prefer, think of "you" as "TV". TV Tube!

I’m not a vet, so I won’t comment on the subject itself, but on a related note, I always found “Google Preferred” to be a bizarre naming choice.

Why would a global, and generally loved brand, use the name of another to market a product?

I think it's about Google advertising channels -- with advertising decisions being the driver, not the quality of the content from the Youtube side. The main consumers of this designation are potential Google customers, not Youtube content creators or users.

YouTube is owned by Google.

Even so. It’s a strange use of branding. It would be like Beats having a line of “Apple Preferred” headphones.

In the eyes of many consumers they’re unrelated because they’ve up until now pushed very separate branding.

> In the eyes of many consumers they’re unrelated because they’ve up until now pushed very separate branding.

I mean we are both speculating here unless there is some data to prove our claims, but I would say that Google dropped any attempt at keeping the brands too separate when they introduced the Google+ comment section.

The "Google preferred" also makes sense because all advertising that happens on Youtube is under the Google AdWords brand. There is no Youtube Ads, only Google Adwords for video.

I don't think so. The advertising business is all named under Google, e.g. Google AdWords and Google AdSense. Even the YouTube-specific TrueView ads fall under AdWords.

This might sound silly, but working in these content moderation jobs must be painful -- dealing with a lot of constant negativity if not abuse, etc.

In some ways, moderating all the good content might give you a break.. I imagine they probably won't cross with other such jobs though.

As a society, online really seems to bring out some of the worst in people; and I figure there is not a set of valued peers around you to try and influence your behaviour for the better.

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