1. Black Moleskine notebook where I write down ideas, and explain myself some complicated code for example. I use it more as a "mind-organiser" if I may say so...
2. Emacs' org-mode, where I write down my dev. progress on weekly level, lay down monthly plans and goals and write down some of the random stuff that I like to order into lists. And I use it more since I found out really good iOS app for org mode called "beorg". It is really awesome, I sync it with Dropbox and it works really, really well.
3. Apple Notes as my scribble kind of thing since synchronization works instantaneously between my iPhone and Macs. I use it mostly as my iPhone on-the-go noting system, and later on if I find something important I pass it to the org file or write it down into the black notebook.
It seems to be less common these days, but when I write down an algorithm or visualize it on paper it's so much easier to grasp - I always wondered why I can work with "real paper" better than with ePaper (et al.) even when it's a scan of my handwriting. Is that a thing of routine?
(there's also some with hardcover, but I find them too heavy)
Personally I have seen the light and find that Moleskin paper is not the best. I switched to using Japanese paper. I'm left handed and Japan needs fast drying pens and paper.
Here is a quick link to some of the brands I like with graph paper. https://www.jetpens.com/Pocket-Notebooks/ct/1668?&f=9e1b4fde...
I just got a few of these and I am really happy with the quality of these. https://www.jetpens.com/blog/leuchtturm1917-notebook-guide/p...
Also the Whitelines app with this notebook is really a great idea. You basically take a picture and the grey background is removed and you have just your writing or drawing.
I'm a loyal Lleuchtturm user, but have been considering the Midori notebooks. How do they compare?
I've used the format for a year where each day was a heading:
* <2016-12-12 Tue>
Task1 with notes if needed
and it does not work great with beorg.
The Option screen display issue will be fixed in the next release. The backend of these apps is quite reliable (I've never lost a synced note for instance), but there are quite a few ugly bugs like this one in the front end. That's in part because I wasn't planning to release this officially just yet (it got picked up somehow by omgubuntu and then here).
Would you affirm this in a formal risk assessment?
It depends on the user, which is why they are given an option.
> Would you affirm this in a formal risk assessment?
Are we still talking about a free, open-source note-taking app or is this a medical device now?
And I assume that users who care about this will find out how to disable it. I realise it's not ideal - perhaps a better way is to ask the first time the app starts, like what VLC is doing (however this has the drawback of an extra popup on startup).
Please set one up and msg me and I'll gladly contribute. I'm a daily, heavy Evernote user and I would love some competition to this great app and the ability to have an open-source option.
The only other alternative is DevonThink, which is pricey, but well worth its cost.
> For a small annual fee, Pinboard can download and store a copy of every page you bookmark, for your own private use.
Enabling archiving will also enable full-text search for your bookmarks.
How does it work?
Each time you save a bookmark, or put something on your toread list, Pinboard will crawl the URL and store a permanent copy of the page to your account.
Why are the notes not simply stored as files in the first place? Would this not be much easier than constant exporting/importing to various providers?
It's when exporting them or syncing them that all the app entities (notes, but also notebook metadata, tags, etc.) are converted to plain text files. One advantage of this is that the notes are not locked into an obscure format - it shouldn't take more than 1h to create a script that read and convert these text files to any other format.
Zim uses plain text files and folders. You can have images, tags, link to other notes, links to the filesystem...
Maybe I am not using it with enough files for it to be a problem, but I cant say that it is slow.
Whether that approach is a good idea is a different question than it being possible.
I personally feel the only truly non obscure format are plain text files and it should be possible to use hierarchies, tags etc. with a combination of folders and front matter on the files itself. But I am a bit extreme in this, since I just don't like to migrate my notes yet again and have to install app after app on every device I need to access them. I was quite taken with projects like grav, that can provide functionality with just markdown files. But I haven't investigated to far on performance, especially not on mobile.
And you are right of course, that SQLite is quite preferable to most propitiatory cloud storage solutions.
:config sync.target 2
:config sync.2.path /path/to/synced/dir/
That's also why having a local SQLite is useful because you can more easily compare your local state to what they have.
I do have a local database store, but the Windows Store app is written in JS so I'm using NeDB which is basically just a mongo style interface for a JSON file. At the moment I really only use it to track recently opened files.
On other platforms I'll probably use SQLite, but I won't be storing the data in there, just the metadata (access times, paths, previews, wordcounts etc)
As one dev to another I have to say I love what you've built in Joplin. I love the name, I love the terminal app idea (Why didn't I think of that!) - its really a great achievement. You've built for multiple platforms and here I am hijacking the thread to peddle my half-built markdown-editor-with-a-file-list =D
Not open-sourced yet but will be very soon
Sure, you theoretically can migrate your notes from, say OneNote to Evernote (and vice-versa), but doing so is a great experience in frankensteining. I'm not even very confident there isn't outright data loss in some places, and with a high volume of notes, it's not feasible to check manually. Even with no loss, lots of stuff look ugly and/or do not work anymore, even if there is an equivalent on the target platform.
Take a look at Bear on Mac & iOS, and DayOne (my favorite but lacking full markdown support). Also Dropbox paper is interesting and live previews markdown and has nice table support
As a programmer, most of the notes, I take, have code snippets. With markdown notes, I get nice code highlighting in my notes.
Also a lot of times HTML/RTF notes end up having hidden invisible characters. So it messes up commands. That's why I prefer plain text notes over rich formatted notes.
If there isn't an editor to hand it is easy enough to read as plain text.
I had high expectations when Gus Mueller sold the app to plausible, but they haven't invested enough on it since 2013.
I've had a play with this briefly and I will be using it full time. As soon as it offers nextcloud sync it really ticks all of my boxes. The terminal client is a really nice touch.
I much prefer lineage to any other android experience I've ever had fwiw. Everything just works (except I haven't figured out how to nor really care to spend much time investigating snapchat with lineage).
There's a bunch of plugins for it but I haven't used any of them yet.
I mean, for example, being able to assign tasks to others (like in Redmine / JIRA) and be notified of progress/completion.
Or collaboration on notes and permissions etc. Straight from your phone instead of some google doc.
And maybe turning those notes into tasks later.
What would you use?
Secondly, syncing is built in. Sure you could use git on your org mode file, but that’s requires effort.
Thirdly, this handles attachments and images.
Fourth, the user does not have to learn EMacs.
Fifth, it runs on phones.
So it does have advantages for some people. If your already an orgmode master, it may mean less for you.
2) You can put your org file in Dropbox, all the mobile clients support that too.
3) Org-mode probably does this too.
4) Granted :)
5) orgzly for Android, beorg for ios.
Not having to bother with Emacs is a huge plus.
These "questions" invariably come across as "this thing sucks because it's not the thing that I am used to".
It should also not be forgotten that the project linked has some features in addition to just note-taking and to-do lists, so it's definitely not directly comparable either.
The more likely pain-point is that on one device you have extra tools/configuration set up (e.g., org-latex), but these tools aren't available elsewhere (such as in orgzly). But I assume that this is a given for orgzly users: they probably don't expect they can do everything that org-mode enables in Emacs (like producing PDFs via LaTeX). They just want to do basic edits, and don't want to lose data when the document round-trips between Emacs and orgzly. (I don't use orgzly, but I assume that safe round-tripping is a feature...)
There is a Android App - https://github.com/orgzly/orgzly-android
I'll take an app that uses a bit more resources over something that looks like an IDE instead of a note-taking app any day.
Currently using Inkdrop, which is not open source (but subscription based) and has a rather basic Android client, but it's cross-platform (macOS, Windows, Android, iOS, Ubuntu and other Linux-based distributions), has a pretty intuitive interface (as in, doesn't look like an IDE), backs up its database to my Nextcloud instance, and supports dragging and dropping images.
Also, though Scott Joplin's ragtime musical style has a lot in common with some very informal music, his own approach was more educated, sophisticated, and precise. Every note was in its place for a reason, and he was known to prefer his pieces to be performed exactly as written. So you could say that compared to the people who came before him, his notes were more organized.
As soon as we get Keybase FS on Android, this kind of tool becomes extremely interesting.
Typora looks like a lovely interface, but appears to be non-free, no support on mobile, not collaborative.
Also, having a WYSIWYG editor is cool, in raw Markdown links and images just do not look good for my taste (and tables, and more, compared to Dropbox Paper or Notion). The number of files for which they support syntax highlighting is small though. In particular Elixir is not in the list as of this writing.
[this style]: https://example.com
the abbreviated version of my setup is this:
AmazonBasics dotted notebook as my primary note taking device. I use a system similar to a bullet journal.
Microsoft OneNote for web clipping. The web client is good enough if I need to read notes on linux. I use Boostnote for programming notes / Markdown. Then, at the end of the day, I type my notes from my physical notebook in to OneNote for searchability.
I know that my setup is not earth shattering. But that's kind of my point. I spent a lot of time searching high and low for a fully digital solution. I assumed that I would find several excellent cross-platform note taking applications to choose from. I was wrong. They were either not very good at taking notes, or the few that are good, are not cross platform. Honorable mention to Simplenote and Quiver. Quiver is solid if you're only on a Mac.
The only gripe I have with org-mode is its awkward mobile support. But Orgzly does a decent job on Android and I rarely type on mobile, which is hugely ineffective anyways.
I've tried pretty much everything and still haven't found anything with the features/ease-of-use/good design of Wunderlist (which is still lacking in features, and has a fast approaching EOL). Considering todo apps are the modern version of hello world I would think we'd have a lot of good options (or does that reasoning actually mean there are a lot of half-baked options?)
I'm using Quiver for Mac, but really a cross platform solution would be more appropriate.
I tend to take notes/drawings on paper then take pictures of the useful stuff and put it into Quiver so I can see it in context
My use-case is recording quick notes and TODOs, which often come at the weirdest of moments (no computer, no paper).
I feel there's a market for something super simple: a speech recognition fast enough and good enough that I can later read and understand what I said.
Everything I've tried so far was either too cumbersome (I need it to start recording fast, just like taking a snap picture) or its transcriptions too crappy (no idea what was said, even conceptually).
Sounds like you really just ought to make a habit of keeping pen and paper near you, or your mobile phone. Either of these fit your use case nicely at (probably) no extra cost.
Well, Radim is looking for a mobile app, so I'm assuming there's one around.
I've recently started using TickTick (https://ticktick.com) and been pretty happy with it, thought not accessible from a terminal.
I don't know that I'll ever settle on just one note-taking method. I'm too everywhere to have a single system.
As one example: Those notes are unlikely simple to access when you're on your phone away from your terminal.
Not to be insensitive to other cultures, but "this name sounds vaguely like this vulgar thing in another language" is not a strong reason to rename a project of this kind.
will look forward to helping contribute.
It synchronises perfectly
I can drag and drop images to it, no problem.
Cmd + C, Cmd + V, Cmd + B, Cmd + I all work as expected.
I can even add to-do lists and cross out "Done"
I think it even supports tables, But I don't use them.
Export as PDF, html, airdrop, email whatever, works easily
If I ever get out of Apple ecosystem, it won't work.
Apple has my data, and I need to trust them.
I recently moved to a Windows machine as my day-to-day home machine and thought I'd have to abandon Apple Notes (which I use on my phone and my work Macbook) but the web interface is basically identical to the apps.
But if iCloud Notes is just as good, maybe I'm wasting my time. I trust Apple's security, and Notes really is exactly what I want as a dev (their limited markup is nearly as useful as markdown, and I love that it is limited to a few choices).
The data stored all over the place in the DB.
For example, you can extract HTML body of a note with the following query: "select ZHTMLSTRING from ZNOTEBODY".
I thought we were talking about taking notes and then displaying them? How could that be complicated?
You don't need to let Apple have your data to use Notes. Notes syncs through a standard IMAP account.
If you have your own domain, you can just create a email@example.com e-mail account and Apple Notes will happily sync all of its data through that. That's what I do.
I have been using it for a few months and it is working good for me with resilio as my sync tool but it works with dropbox also. So security is up to the way you sync your files.
Works on Linux, Mac, Windows, iOS and Android and is open source. Takes a bit more to setup but I like this app since it reminds me of the old PIM Programs of old and has a good markdown system. It also exports as plain text or markdown.
CalDAV for Calendars, Reminders.
CardDAV for Contacts.
I am able to use (basic) formatted text, but not the upgraded notes.
I've really enjoyed fastmail for the 1.5 years that I've used it.
For the record, Fastmail supports Mail, Calendar, & Contacts very well. And because Mail is doing the analysis of your messages, Calendar automatically inserts dates from events, flights, and such.
 - https://www.fastmail.com/help/clients/macmail.html
If you are interested, let me know. I can knock it out in a day or so and it will work on any platform you use because it's based on Electron.