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How does removing the headphone jack help Apple sell more headphones? The iPhone can work with any Bluetooth headset, any wired headset with the included adapter or third party headset with a lightning end. Do you really think that people are going to run out and buy $150 AirPods just because of the lack of a headset?

How is losing the adapter any different than losing or breaking the lightning cable? How is buying extra adapters any different than buying extra lightning cables.

I remember when the iMac came out and people were complaining that Apple got rid of the floppy drive and the big uproar when Apple got rid of the optical drive years later.



> How does removing the headphone jack help Apple sell more headphones? The iPhone can work with any Bluetooth headset, any wired headset with the included adapter or third party headset with a lightning end. Do you really think that people are going to run out and buy $150 AirPods just because of the lack of a headset?

Apple also owns Beats, a major headphones manufacturer. I think the connection is obvious; people want an Apple-branded thing to go with their Apple-branded phone, they're gonna pay for it.

> Do you really think that people are going to run out and buy $150 AirPods just because of the lack of a headset?

Have, will, and are, yes.

> How is losing the adapter any different than losing or breaking the lightning cable? How is buying extra adapters any different than buying extra lightning cables.

You're really not engaging with the core of my argument. There's no good reason for me to have to worry about it at ALL except that Apple has decided they don't want headphone jacks. CDs are a clear upgrade over floppies in every way; Bluetooth is not an upgrade over an analog jack for me. It might be for some people, but I'm not one of them.

I'm not sure what it is you think I should do - cop to whatever Apple wants 'cause they're Apple and they must know better? I don't like a change they made. I'm going to complain about it because I want them to undo it, and I'm not going to buy their products if they don't have what I want. No, it's not the end of the world. Yes, other companies are doing it too - I won't buy their phones either. But this is how, as a consumer, one makes a corporation listen to them.


If you care about audio quality, why would you want to use the headphone jack that has to go through the DAC? Even back in my iPod days I had a 30 pin adapter that would give me line out support to the stereo system. Now I use a USB cable to connect to the car audio. I have three ways to connect my iPhone to my cheap car - a 1/8 inch analog audio port, Bluetooth and USB. Two out of three of those don't involve going through the relatively poor amp in the headphone jack.

5 years from now, I doubt high end phones will have an analog headphone jack.


You're still not responding to the core of my issue here, so I don't see a point in continuing this discussion. I can respond to each and every point about audio quality, convenience, etc, etc, etc, but the real point - I'm not supporting Apple doing something I didn't ask for in order to achieve something I don't want for money I don't care to spend, and that should be an acceptable thing - gets lost if I do.


You're still not responding to the core of my issue here, so I don't see a point in continuing this discussion. I can respond to each and every point about audio quality, convenience, etc, etc, etc, but the real point - I'm not supporting Apple doing something I didn't ask for in order to achieve something I don't want for money I don't care to spend, and that should be an acceptable thing - gets lost if I do. If you expect Apple to keep legacy interfaces when there are technically better alternatives, you haven't been following Apple for long. Apple dropped 32 bit support for Macs back in 2008. Windows still has 32 bit support. They are dropping 32 bit support for iOS this year. If Apple sees that there is a better technical solution, they are the first to drop an outdated one. The headphone jack is inferior in every way to the alternatives. If you argued that Apple should drop lightning and support USB-C as the one port solution for iPhones, I wouldn't argue with you. But holding on to headphone jacks is like people holding on to the floppy disk and Mac users complaining about dropping ADB ports and before that they"Apple II forever" crowd.




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