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> You cannot reduce the "gap" by aiming at the women who are already at Google. This should be obvious. They are already there. To make a dent in the gap, you need to attract more women who currently do not choose to work in tech or not at Google. So nothing he writes is about his colleagues at Google, or by extension women who are already in or interested in tech. It is about potentially attracting those who are not currently interested in that career.

If that were the case then he would not lead his essay implying that the current hiring policies were hurting Google. He seems to imply standards have somehow been damaged, but right now that's not what Google does.

> Third, it's not about ability, but about preference.

There are so many potential sources of preference, from negative experience to personal ability. It seems very suspect to point to gender stereotypes that a large number of women have been arguing against for decades are in fact the root cause here.

> you've probably heard that tend to score higher on the math SATs and women higher on the verbals. This is apparently not the whole story: men with high math scores do tend to not also have high verbal scores (and therefore prefer STEM). However, for women the two are correlated, not anti-correlated: those with high math scores tend to also have high verbal scores, so they have more options

Sources, please.

> Fifth, I thought pair programming was a Good Thing™?

That depends. If I told you the only way you're going to be competitive and not drag down the standard of my organization is by pairing up with another person, should you take that as a compliment?




> That depends. If I told you the only way you're going to be competitive and not drag down the standard of my organization is by pairing up with another person, should you take that as a compliment?

This is factualy not what was said in the memo.

https://diversitymemo.com/#reduce-gender-gap

> Women on average show a higher interest in people and men in things

> We can make software engineering more people-oriented with pair programming and more collaboration.

That was literally the only mention of pair programming the the entire memo and it was as a suggestion to make positions more appealing to women who were more interested in people and more social. Not once does he equate pair programming as some remedial for your perceived statement of lower quality ability. The guy was trying to suggest ways to attract more women and you flip it around to demonize him. Do you not see that you are large part of the problem? Instead of trying to engage and explain to him why his points are perhaps wrong or misguided, you instead twist his words to simply eviscerate him instead.


> current hiring policies

And he made it clear that he didn't think they were producing "false positives", so every woman hired was qualified.

> There are so many potential sources of preference

Yes. Biology is one.

> gender stereotypes

http://www.spsp.org/blog/stereotype-accuracy-response

[Stereotype Accuracy Is One Of The Largest And Most Replicable Effects In All Of Social Psychology]

> [verbal/math scores correlate for women] Sources

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rabble-rouser/201707/wh...

> the only way you're going to be competitive

> and not drag down the standard of my organization

> is by pairing up with another person

Huh??? Where did you get that from? Pleaaze.


Please excuse the delay. I'll get to breaking your links down shortly. You're asking me to source papers during my commute hour and on mobile it's difficult to grab and source the resources I'll cite.




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