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Mageia 6 has been released (mageia.org)
46 points by Conan_Kudo 9 months ago | hide | past | web | favorite | 14 comments

In case anyone wonders, why still Mageia (the old Mandrake/Mandriva)?

There are still things in this distro, that others haven't picked up that well on.

The Mageia Control Center can do basically anything you would want. It can detect printers and find the right driver and setup for you.

There is Draknet, that just works for me. I despise Network Manager and WICD, they have horrible UX in my opinion. I hear good things about the netctl in Arch Linux, bet that is specific to that distro aa far as I am aware.

In my experience it is an RPM-based distro that is well executed. I tried Fedora around version 14 till 16, but just gave up for a lot of reasons. They say it is really good now, but they said it back then too. I haven't tried SuSe in years, but I never liked Yast.

Well, in the end it all comes down to personal preference I suppose. I always loved Mandrake/Mandriva. I tried Fedora for 2 years. Tried Debian for 3 years even. But I am happy to be using Mageia again on my desktop/server and laptop.

If Mageia Control Center is so much better than KDE's, why hasn't it been adopted into Plasma? All these new distros seem like they are fracturing the community more than helping the greater ecosystem, but tbh I haven't looked too far into this distro/community.

You will have to ask the Plasma people :) One reason might be that it is written in Perl - GTK.

Mageia Control goes way back to probably 1999. I don't understand why other distro's haven't picked it up. Most distro's have nothing in this regard, just an installer and the DE control center. I assume it is politics or NIH, but I honestly don't know or understand.

There's an ongoing effort to rework MCC into something more flexible, called ManaTools. Unlike MCC, ManaTools offers Qt 5, GTK+ 3, and ncurses UIs through the usage of the libyui library.

There's a preview release of it in Mageia 6 as "manatools".

In addition, development of the new tools is on GitHub: https://github.com/manatools

is it server friendly .. or mostly a desktop distro?

My server needs are mostly home server, so my experience is mostly from that. I run a webserver with Apache/PHP/MySQL. I run Dovecot and Postfix. MPD even as a music player daemon. It does use systemd, but as usual, I assume it is to trim down on development time. The defaults are often quite sane, and a lot of thought has been put into integration of services.

It is quite polished I have to say, and there used to be some config-parts in Mageia Control Center for server stuff. I assume they still are.

There are many contributors with their own expertise, like the person for OpenLDAP. It is also quite strongly built around Perl. If you like to automate stuff with Perl, you will be very happy.

So the day of its release, all the pieces are already obsolete. linux 4.9.35, should be 4.12 systemd 230, should be 233.75 Qt5.6.2, should be 5.10.3 firefox 52.2.0, should be 54.0.1

I guess I'm spoiled by Arch.

yay! This is the only linux distribution I've ever used where everything "Just works". Made my computer totally stable, to the point where I lost basically all of my linux-configurin' knowhow.

If you want to try a Linux that needs no care and attention, I would suggest you try this one.

How well does it support full disk encryption? I poked around on the site and didn't see anything obvious about in the installation instructions. Is it any easier for multimedia stuff like exchanging music and videos with phones and cameras than figuring out everything the hard way with Debian?

I don't know about full-disk encryption, as I don't use that feature.

However, for multimedia, it has everything in the main repositories. For stuff that may be encumbered in some way, they are shipped in the "tainted" repository, which can be activated separately.

Likewise for nonfree software/firmware.

Used to keep an eye on Mandrake back in the day, and i liked the installer. But these days i really do not need the systemd headache.

Mandrake/Mandriva used to be my favourites until early Ubuntus.

Haven’t tried Mageia lately.

Mini story: I got interested by Linux around 1999 when I was 15-16. I tried to install Slackware 3.4 and Red Hat 5.0 on my machine at home, but I did not know enough about computers and I did not understand English well enough to follow the instructions that came with those distros. I managed to get Linux installed and start XFree86, but I had no idea how to connect to the Internet or how to do anything really.

A few months later, I bought a copy of "Linux France" (or maybe it was another magazine?) that came with a CD of Mandrake 6.1. Thanks to the French instructions in the magazine, I was able to install Mandrake without issues and they gave instructions on how to use kppp to connect to the Internet. Since kppp looked similar to the modem connection utility from Windows 95/98, I felt comfortable and for the first time, I was able to go on the Internet with Linux! (Also, I believe that it detected my winmodem, which was probably the main problem I had with Slackware and Red Hat.)

From then on, I basically never looked back: I learned how to operate a Linux machine, I learned English, I learned to program, and 18 years later, though I haven't used Mandrake/Mandriva/Mageia in years, I am still very thankful that it existed when it did and opened up a whole new world to me. I hope that this release of Mageia can do the same for another 15-16 year-old who's interested in computers, wants to run Linux, but feels intimidated.

Mandrake was my first linux, back in the day. I found it easy to install and use. I'm on mint nowadays, but I really should take a look a mageia.

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