The way I phrase it is usually this: if you want to change the world, politics is waste of time. It's one of the least efficient ways of helping, because you'll end up stuck in constant battles over trivia, status and, well, office politics. By the time you wind up in position of actual power, you'll likely be up to your ears with various deals, and you won't be really helping society anymore.
(Corollary: I don't buy that the higher up you go, the more power you have. Looking at the dynamics of political parties, it's very rare someone will let you achieve position of power if you've not proven again and again to be open for deals and preserving status quo. My current belief is that usually, the higher you go, the less actual agency you have.)
Being efficiently engaged in local or global politics has little to do with discussing e.g. the latest media blunder of a politician, or whatever promise they made that probably won't happen anyway.
> This generation
No. Resoundingly NO! These smug clowns can't speak for anything and anyone. They're not even a generation, just farts in the wind. Even just 1% of the people paying attention outweigh them easily, and at any rate, the world belongs to those who genuinely care about it. Period, anyone who disagrees can come fight me. Think less "no child left behind" and more "Noah's Ark"; they had their chance, they made their choice, let's not be held hostage by them. At the very least, let them queue after those who are not ungrateful.
Can I flag you? Yes? Oh, there's the link. I just flagged you.
You see, this is why some of us want less politics on HN. Because every political topic inevitably turns into people doing the thing you're doing here - assuming that those who have different views than you are "smug clowns", instead of trying to figure out why their views differ from yours.
And you are holding speeches about tolerance??
How tolerant about different views are you? Or are you just misusing your power?
So much about the "tolerance of the self assigned tolerance watchers".
Every time, I speak out for the truth on HN, I am down voted continuously, only half-hearted tech-blabla is suffered here.
What adds up hat HN: Any discussion about important future stuff is instantly penalized by the system here. I really regret to have registered at all.
Just doing geek-stuff and enjoying the live as techie is just to hollow for me. It really makes me sad.
Not every. Be precise. I checked.
> Any discussion about important future stuff is instantly penalized by the system here.
I disagree. Just browse the front page history if you don't believe me. There's plenty of discussions about important future stuff that's hanging on the front page every week. It's just that we have a strong quality expectation here, both in terms of posted articles and the discussions they generate.
> I really regret to have registered at all.
And I agree. It's hollow for me too. Personally however, I find politics to be one of the least effective and least efficient way of contributing to betterment of the world. Many people on HN disagree with me about that. But either way, lots of people are interested in things outside the tech sphere. It's just that when people are interesting in changing things, they're interesting in actually changing things - and not being sidetracked by ego-based flamewars.
At least, you paint nice pictures.
Aww, blush <3.
Just as much as whistleblowing and exposing fraud, espionage, or illegal activities has nothing to do with journalism and transparency. Let alone politics.
In general, software has nothing to do with anything but software itself. Take encryption: it has nothing to do with privacy, which has nothing to do with with surveillance which has nothing to do with politics.
Also - Startups also have nothing to do with the economy; Automation and design has nothing to do with the industry.
And while we're at it: Science has nothing to do with politics. That's why politicians ignore climatologists, physicists and biologists.
(Coincidently, cryptocurrencies are just another target for some hackers with deep consequences for any economy that trusts them.)
Some things cannot be ignored, or seen as independent. They are stuck together since their conception.