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Winograd's still working in AI and Minsky died last year, so they (are, were) very up-to-date.

https://hci.stanford.edu/winograd/

http://web.media.mit.edu/~minsky/

Since both cooperated with DARPA at a high level they were aware of defense-related efforts which your typical AI grunt wouldn't necessarily see.

Also both are extraordinarily imaginative and bright, so it is more likely they could show you things they've done that you would not imagine.




I am well aware of their brilliance.

That doesn't change that I think there is a bunch of things they didn't imagined and I think they would both agree. (Minsky unfortunately can't anymore)

And sure they can probably see things I can't it's not a competition.




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