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> I like to imagine that one of the developers on that team filed a tech debt item to do exactly this, was never able to get their manager to prioritize it, and is now pulling out their hair saying, "I told you so!"

Malware authors have budgets and schedules too. It's a business, probably more profitable than 90% of the startups in SV






That's not exactly high praise. A tuft of grass is more profitable than 90% of the startups in SV.

Especially if that tuft of grass is on piece of real estate in the bay area.

I wonder if Levi's jeans were more profitable than the average goldbug

Haha... That's a quite negative point of view. I mean even though most startups don't survive and won't make the involved parties more wealthy, there are people who actually use that stuff. From a user perspective it's profitable ;)

> It's a business

No, it's not, and it's pretty damn rude to make that claim in the presence of legitimate businesspeople.


Oh please. How many "legitimate businesspeople" believe its their moral duty to spend millions on tax evasion lawyers and schemes. That think nothing of destroying thousands of lives and millions of man years worth of hard-gotten savings from the defenseless with legal but immoral schemes. It is perfectly legitimate business people that refer to patients as "units" and literally let them die if not money can be made of them. I'll type all day and not get to 10% of legit accusations I can make against "legitimate businesspeople".

I'll take an honest crook any day.


Haha, yep. At least they're honest about screwing you.

They didn't say "reputable business". Even the mob is a business, meaning "something whose purpose is making money" (over-simplified, but I'm sure you'll get the point).

The definition of a business is an entity which provides goods/services to consumers.

The typical moral distinction b/w a business and other entities which make[1] money is a business (presumably) does it within the constraint of their counterparties enjoying the liberty of choice. This becomes a grey area when government enters the picture and removes liberties--which is why there is debate about the legitimate role of government's monopoly on legitimate violence/aggression here.

1 - note, a further distinction could be made between entities which create value, and those which transfer it.


> The definition of a business is an entity which provides goods/services to consumers.

That's not true. A business is a vehicle for making money, that's it. Most businesses do this by providing goods or services, but certainly not all - for example, financial traders that only manage their own funds, like the Renaissance Medallion fund.


Financial traders are still buying and selling goods and services with a counterparty.

Even here, we still can observe that in most cases (except those where government interferes, or perhaps with organized crime) the counterparty is also enjoying a choice in whether or not they want to do the deal. I would argue that in cases where a counterparty has no choice, such a scheme should not be viewed as a legitimate busines, as it historically would not be.


that's basically the root argument of libertarianism - that forced transactions are unethical and thus taxation is theft.

I'd still argue that a business does not have to provide a good or service to be considered a business though. The Medallion Fund that I mentioned solely exists to make money for its owners - it does not provide any goods or services.




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