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What if you prefer internal hub shifters?

Then you just skip the math and get a Rohloff Speedhub.

In addition, Shimano has an 11-speed alfine hub coming that's getting close to Rohloff's versatility at a fraction of the price.

Thanks, hadn't seen the announcement. Looks like a nice deal for the price, 400% hits the sweet spot for range and the jumps aren't too bad.

It's good to hear that there's finally going to be some competition in the high end hub gear space. Even if I don't expect to on the market until my Rohloff breaks down, which might take a while... :-)

When I have more income, I'll see about comparing that to my Sturmey Archer.

EDIT: Looked at the Wikipedia article. Wow, there's no comparison!

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