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The best advice that I got was don't quit your full time job. My desktop sharewares dont sell that often nowadays, but its enough to pay my rent and monthly expenses. The salary that I get from my full time job goes direct to my bank untouched.

> "Working from a cafe"

100% agree. For me, no work gets done from a cafe. I wonder what work people do by sitting at Starbucks. I cant write one line of code if I am being constantly distracted. Does anyone feel different ?

I've written tons of code in cafes. As a notorious procrastinator I find the cafe setting very helpful for avoiding the obvious distractions like Wikipedia holes, etc. I'm sure it sounds stupid to people who are more naturally focused but just the feeling that strangers _could_ be judging my use of time is pretty effective (I know I do it...I may not know why you brought your Macbook to this coffee shop but I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't to read rumours about Kim Kardashian). What I do find hard is thinking through difficult architectural problems in such a setting...often I'll spend an hour in the park with pen and paper thinking about that stuff and then hammer it out at the coffee shop. Different strokes I guess.

> the cafe setting very helpful for avoiding the obvious distractions like Wikipedia holes,

Don't forget a cafe (or anywhere) is also "not home" in that -- over time -- you are conditioning yourself that a cafe is a place of work whilst your home is not. This helps one be more productive in both environs.

Doing this very often. Abstracting the background noise and conversation is a skill that can be trained.

It's even better in public libraries, because the noise is 10x lower than the typical open-space environment. You also make random encounters which usually turns out great.

The only things that could be a blocker is music with vocals, for that I use earbuds.

I tend to think of different places like psychological anchors, each one good for a particular type of work.

Moving physically itself is a powerful reward for accomplished tasks.

+1 for libraries. Support your local library!

More importantly, if you can relegate the hustle and noise from a cafe into white noise, you'll be doing yourself a favour if you end up working in a crowded office. A loud office is the worst kind of problem, because it's rarely a dealbreaker- meaning you have to endure it.

It's harder in the office because it's a social group, the chatter may talk about you, your project, etc.. So the expectation is that you listen to it.

I really dislike working in libraries; I've tried several times, but the "quietness" is very distracting to me. Add to this the fact that many unsavory characters like to hang out in the library, the difficulty of finding a desk with a good view of the sunny outside, and it is no wonder I just can't do it. I suspect there are many like me.

I much prefer cafes, and I don't have any problem concentrating there at all.

There is something different about a loud office, though, and I don't like those either

I work in cafes most of the time and seem to get a lot done.

It works for me. The noise of a cafe blends together, whereas at home the occasional out-of-place sound is a lot more significant.

Coffee shops are great place to do admin work or any work that doesn't demand a lot of attention but tends to be boring. I find that I have an easier time focusing on such work in a coffee shop than at home.

On the other hand, I have a lot more difficulties concentrating on work in an open-space office mostly because the discussions around me would then tend to be related to my work so I can't just completely tune them out.

I am very productive in a cafe environment, I like the atmosphere and it is a nice change. I just pop in some noise cancelling headphones and code away. At a cafe there is a lot of noise, but other than that there is really no distractions.

noise cancelling headphones may be the best €250 I ever spent.

IIRC the two guys from 2dboy developed World of Goo in coffee shops.

I think there's quite a few indie developers who do. Delicious Monster got featured in Wired for working out of Zoka Coffee in Seattle [1], and if I remember correctly that's where the Cloak VPN team works from sometimes too.

[1] https://www.wired.com/2005/01/monster-fueled-by-caffeine/

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