edit: The 2nd link I click on had jobs ranging from 2014 to 2012. I respect the effort you're putting into this curated list but displaying jobs that old is a little silly.
I guess the one benefit is seeing a list of potential employers of FOSS developers even if it means researching current possibilities elsewhere...
After my comment I read more and it looks like they want more contributions and, I agree, being on HN probably helped!
I don't know what makes everyone so upset at old listings. They are listed chronologically, there is an RSS feed to follow for fresh things. It's not like it's thousands of mixed jobs where you have to hunt for the recent postings? I definitely don't object to someone adding an archive/expiry functionality that does not completely delete old job listings. If you look at the referenced ticket on github, I created it.
Keeping the old jobs as a separate search option (eg "[ ] include historic items") de-clutters the primary purpose of the site. That matters when you consider that few people enjoy the process of job hunting so will quickly abandon any platform with a poor signal to noise ratio.
I spend some of my free time to collect and post open source jobs someplace. That's my goal.
There's certainly analytical value in having every FOSS job you could have ever seen, but none for the end user.
In the UK, Government Digital Service already has a strict policy that software it writes should be open.
Being able to write FOSS in your day job is a wonderful boon . Especially in government it will help offset the lower salaries of the public sector.
And they pay contractors 1000 a day for that.
Why the hell would anyone want to work for open source projects that can't pay for their housing and food.
It's hard to define clear criteria.
We do want to avoid jobs where people just "use" FOSS. The focus is definitely paid positions where you /contribute/ to FOSS in some way. Besides obvious developer positions, that might be administrative or sysop jobs at FOSS projects/orgs or other non-profit environments, more than sysop jobs at random web startups.
That countries-list must have been a FOSS project without a maintainer..
ps - amazing initiative, congrats!
That being said, I welcome suggestions on how to improve the wording, some examples what fits and what does not, etc. -- Thanks!
I just want to say I appreciate the effort! :)
Is there something like this out there already? This could be a feature in this site or a completely new site if someone wants to take on this idea. Github should offer this option!
Lots of research on bounty sites and other funding platforms: https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-research/other-crowdfundi...
And sometimes I just walk into GitHub and @ the contributors and offer money like this https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll/issues/3337 Some people complained but fuck 'em. End result, hired somebody and got the job done.
The following text could be improved though (looks as if it is suggesting to recommend a fake job to a friend):
"Is this job ad fake? Report it! or Recommend to a friend"
;-) (disclaimer: I work at Red Hat, happy to hook site maintainer up with our team to coordinate)
Happy to talk about it, I am just a bit afraid that it will flood the site and make it hard to see other offers.
Again, happy to coordinate a direct contact.
You can get me at jwildebo [at] redhat dot com
I took the job to learn how these kinds of projects work. Specifically, the governance model. Well, it didn't.
I wish I understood why.
Writing about open sourcing Solaris, I think it was btilly who said that others had the right to fork, but not the power.
That describes Kuali perfectly. We consortia members couldn't do anything to help ourselves improve things, like simple bug fixes, without it being a major production. Very disempowering, pretty much the opposite of why I wanted to work on FOSS.
We need academic style comparative analysis of FOSS governance models, funding models, project methodologies, etc. Learn from our mistakes, help people in the future.
Plus, I'm guessing Indiana University has outsized influence on the shape of the project, since they founded it.
> We need academic style comparative analysis of FOSS governance models, funding models, project methodologies, etc. Learn from our mistakes, help people in the future.
I have a book here on my desk: "The business and Economics of Linux and Open Source" by Martin Fink. It's from 2002, and could use an update clearly.
I suspect most job openings and offers are launched on country-specific websites and systems, many which probably (even intentionally) are locked in and lack a public API.
Right now, checking Norway, there are zero listing. That may be true (I wouldn't know), but from that alone I'm guessing this site does not know how to source jobs from the "typical" Norwegian employment sites.
So who are going to bother to volunteer for a site which lands everyone else a job but themselves? It seems like a hard thing to get right.
Yes, you are right, this site depends on volunteers. So what? Wikipedia does as well. Why would anyone contribute their knowledge to something that does not help them? Well, maybe it will one day.
We don't have to start a debate about why anyone would volunteer anything, but I find your reasoning pretty self-centered. Also, you're arguing as if this was a mere proposal for a job site that lists FOSS jobs. No, it's not. Is is an actual site that lists FOSS jobs, and it works.
And don't forget about FOSS companies/NGOs who are looking for talent. Some of them actually like to post their job listings at our site, and do so with a very self-centered desire: To fill a position, potentially with less noise than using one of the other platforms. Why would FOSS developers want to look at all the depressing proprietary jobs on other platforms? :)
If you pad your listings, people will assume you need to because there _aren't_ many such jobs. Moreso over time as the ratio of filled listings to active recruitment grows -- if all visitors ever see are jobs that no longer accept applications, they will not come away with a positive outlook on the field.
It's like arguing that a news site should delete yesterday's news instead of keeping an archive, because "you're only interested in today".
As for your "sustainability" and "career building", I disagree there too, but that's for a different conversation.
As someone who recently was job hunting and come across another site with this problem: absolutely do this. You get the bonus of instantly showing the user which jobs are current, so they don't notice only after wasting time and then jump to the assumption the site is dead. You show users that you take the up-to-dateness of the data seriously. And lastly you get to keep the archive around, which I agree with you is a good thing to do.
> There's plenty of recent jobs listed, so your point about "only ever seeing jobs that no longer accept applications" is moot.
Not for me there's not. I'm in the UK and it's all 2 years old.
(Good idea tho, hope it continues well!)
It is niche, but without it, it really does not send any signals that Open Hardware jobs are welcome. A hardware designer definitely is not a "Programmer".
(Edited for clarity)
but: "usual price $250/30 days"
I certainly hope people aren't recommending fake jobs to their friends! That's a funny UX issue.
Would you please fix the dead link? Great job board otherwise, I was about to post a job (I work at SUSE, almost everything we do is FOSS).
(No, it’s not a flavour of Markdown.)
"So where do you work?"
"Uhhh. Cockroach Labs"
A lot of the jobs on fossjobs.net are remote work. In fact, you can directly see the job's location on the job listing. It's definitely worthwhile reaching out to the project to ask.
And of course we would list openings in India, as we would list foss jobs in any place. If you hear of any, please let us know! The easiest way to do that is to cc @fossjobs_net on Twitter.