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You actually can add any IMAP server. We just haven't tested all of them, so we're only officially supporting a few at launch.

Here's how to do it: http://imgur.com/a/WBdXe

(I work at Nylas.)

There's actually a surprising number of provider settings in here: https://github.com/nylas/N1/blob/master/internal_packages/on...

Though there's some odd duplication for FastMail from the last update, I am going to file an issue if I can't find an existing one. :D

And thanks for working on open source software!

So it's closed source, by a US company (subject to NSLs, violating foreigners rights etc) and they get a copy of all my mails? At least that's what it sounds like.

It's open source, at least most of it https://github.com/nylas/sync-engine

The cloud service is also open source, like the client. And they specifically said in this blog post they've actually reduced the dependence on the sync engine, the client now connects directly to mail providers, and the cloud service is needed only for specific features of Nylas.

This is an absurd comment venting your personal gripes with US Law onto someone's product.

Which supported service is not already running in the USA and subject to NSLs? In what way is Nylas reducing your privacy?

It is not absurd.

A normal e-mail client doesn't suffer from this issue. Only if the user is hosting their e-mail traffic inside the US. You may think that's true for everyone, but that is your own bubble or tunnel vision. Say, you are working at the EP (European Parlement). You use Mozilla Thunderbird for your e-mail. Some of the e-mail you receive is internal from your party. The SMTP and IMAP server is hosted in your European country. Then, one day you switch from Mozilla Thunderbird to Nylas N1. Suddenly, your e-mail is not hosted in the EU anymore, and the US government can use a NSL to read your private data. You may not give a rat about this (and if you're from US I can fully understand), that's your discretion. Others do, and their viewpoint is not 'absurd'.

> Which supported service is not already running in the USA and subject to NSLs?

Any SMTP and IMAP server not hosted in the USA. You know, you don't have to use Gmail.

(Nylas Mail doesn't suffer from this problem. Only a few features still require Nylas servers.)

> Which supported service is not already running in the USA and subject to NSLs?


>> You actually can add any IMAP server

Well, my own server?

And in that case, you can surely run your own Nylas sync engine server alongside it. Which still adds no new security issues with using Nylas.

This comment made me smile. Mostly because it threw a new a new light on what I was already thinking; self-host (love how my phone assume I mean "self-hatred", not "self-host", btw) the whole stack, and avoid new security issues that come with forced hosting in hostile jurisdictions.

But take a new daemon that talks a cross product of tls/ssl and three(?) protocols, is supposed to parse random emails, expose it to the Internet - and claim "no new security issues"?

Oh, how I whish that could possibly be true.

It's reasonable to point out this, true. But in the scope of the parent discussion, it was about NSLs from hosting in countries with compromised providers. If you are running your own mail server, you have mostly the same security issues you need to zealously guard against, wherever you put it.

Also, it's 7$ per month.

No it isn't, that's the main point in the linked post.

It's free (Basic), or $12pm (Pro).

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