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Ian's Shoelace Site (fieggen.com)
695 points by Tomte on Jan 15, 2017 | hide | past | web | favorite | 116 comments

So strange to see this here.. I spent a couple days reading the site a few years ago. It was during a time where I was looking for alternative ways to live my life and if I could have subtle improvements on everyday things.

I learned a few knots and even now when I buy a new pair of shoes I consult the site to see what lacing style would suit the shoe and my foot. (since different styles put different tension on the wearers foot).

I have to say, I'm happy it exists, it enriched my life in such a subtle way, this is the kind of content that the internet was made for in my opinion.

Techniques from Japan that changed my life:

T-shirt folding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5AWQ5aBjgE

Gift wrapping. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qi8ZXUH_wY

The t-shirt folding thing is great.

Anyone know something similar for any other type of clothes?

You can easily fold a shirt with a sheet of paper.

Here is a video (she uses a magazine, but you just need a single sheet) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yaMc9Sz-YE

Probably not as fast but very effective if you need to travel with a couple of shirts.

A woman named Konmari is famous for doing this kind of thing for everything.

I believe the woman to whom you are referring is named "Marie Kondo".

The NYTimes wrote up a fairly lengthy article about her in July 2016, which I've been meaning to read: "Marie Kondo and the Ruthless War on Stuff". [0]

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/magazine/marie-kondo-and-...

EDIT: link information

Strange to read your post as well, since it kind of mirrors my experience. I stumbled upon his site about 4 months ago. Since then I've spent hours lacing and tying knots. There's something kind of zen about it. Now, when putting on my shoes, it's a small effect, but it's made every day just slightly more peaceful and complete. I've also gotten lots of questions and questions on my shoes since I found it. It's fun to talk about the site.

Same. Found out about it a couple years ago right after buying some new shoes. Played with some styles for a while, then forgot about it.

So... what other alternative ways to live your life did you discover? Love that idea!

I'm working towards owning no shoes with laces. Between my Dubarry boat/deck shoes and a pair of laceless Converse, my other shoes are eschewed!

I tried no laces (slip-ons and zippers) now I'm trying out Xpand[1]. Have you considered those?

[1] https://www.xpandlaces.com/

These allow my 4E feet to fit into D dance sneakers.

Have to recommend Blundstone boots. I was concerned that the elastic would wear out but it's been years and looks like it will outlast the tread. They are durable, grip well, waterproof easily, and dressy enough for semi-formal occasions. Warm enough for winter and cool enough for summer too!

Bought my first pair 4 weeks ago. I recently relocated from Sydney (somewhat ironic) to NY. I found a recommendation on reddit and couldn't be happier.

Orthogonal to shoes and such, I find that I end up searching for recommendations for products on reddit as opposed to a store or review engine. I prefer to know what enthusiasts think rather than a bunch of randoms who have voted based on a star system.

Are there are sites that just list products and have only a single recommendation for each category? "This is _the_ boot to buy if you are looking for cold weather boots. It's a good combination of warm, waterproof and stylish." That's basically what I was after and exactly what reddit delivered after some searching through relevant subreddits.

And its sister site, thesweethome.com, for housewares and other non-electronic stuff.

Both of these sites are so popular that their recommendations are usually the top seller in their respective Amazon categories.

Wirecutter has never steered me wrong. I'm not sure how many products I've bought based on their recommendations over the years (10? 15?) but every one has been excellent.

I can vouch for Wirecutter's audio equipment reviews in particular. I am a bit of an audio enthusiast, and they do quite well in this area. Their reviewers are well respected in the industry and they are, well, the total opposite of reviewers who recommend snake-oil crap like expensive speaker cables.

I bought the wrong boot! http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-winter-boots-for-men-a...

Thanks for the recommendation. This looks great.

I would be interested in a site like that too!

I'll toss in my vote for Blundstone boots as well. Worth the price, they look nice and most importantly are comfortable. Easy to put on/take off as well.

As an alternative, Baxter boots[0] are also worth considering. I bought a pair of Gringos[1], as they were cheaper than Blundstones, and have been pretty happy with them.

If you really want the full dress boot option and are prepared to spend a lot, there's always RM Williams[2] of course. However, I've heard reports their quality has suffered in recent years. I have three pairs of Yearling Craftsman boots now between 15-25 years old. They've all been re-soled multiple times and the older ones are looking a bit worse for wear, but I've certainly had my money's worth out of them.

[0] http://baxterfootwear.com.au

[1] http://baxterfootwear.com.au/products/gringo/

[2] http://www.rmwilliams.com.au/

If you ever need some joggers then the Salomon quicklace system doesn't really count as laces and is generally pretty awesome.


I was always afraid that they would loosen over time but my pair of Geox Nebula shoes have held up great.

Using towels with loops attached (or adding the loops yourself).

For single sheets, you can cut along the sides of the left and right edge which allows you to put your hands through and pull the duvet into the sheet, super easy and makes swapping the sheets easy.

There was a whole bunch of stuff, it's all incorporated into my lifestyle now so picking it out is difficult.

I didn't realise this wasn't a thing everywhere until just now. In Sweden I never remember any sheet without them, but in the country I live in now they do not have the holes and it is a bit annoying.

You can still grab the sheet "through" the corners though.

Can you explain the duvet/sheet thing? I can't picture what you're trying to accomplish or how you're doing it!

What are the loops for on the towels?


Interesting - thanks for sharing! Is there some image or video on the sheet optimization? I'm not really getting it yet how it is done.

> It was during a time where I was looking for alternative ways to live my life and if I could have subtle improvements on everyday things.

I'm doing exactly this. Would you mind sharing some of the other alternatives you discovered?

I have started doing this too. These are more general than specific, but I think the biggest things for me are:

-Cleaning my entire apartment very thoroughly and keeping it that way. Makes me feel a lot better overall.

-Positive mental attitude always and trying not to stress about things as much. I am a very cynical person and I believe trying to think about things differently is important.

-Constantly analyzing what I am doing and thinking and asking people what I could have done differently, even if I don't see it as a failure there is always something to improve. The key is thinking objectively and not worrying about those mistakes, but keeping those things in mind in the future.

-Really pushing myself to do things out of my comfort zone every single day.

-Focus on making progress on something non-work related every single day.

- Appreciating constructive feedback as an opportunity to learn, not to become defensive

- Taking to heart how chance plays a large role on short term success but doing things right plays a large role for long term success (playing backgammon taught me lot about this).

- Exploring the unwritten rules of small talk and common courtesy.

None of these have come naturally to to me, nor have I fully mastered them. I see them all as processes, not goals.


- Having kids. An everyday crash course in many things.

This man changed how I tie my shoes. This sounds small, but frankly, it was one of the largest changes I have ever made to my life.

Why? Because I learned to tie my shoes at the age of 5 or 6. It's something that was ingrained into my bones. A physical memory, an act that was undeniably of the flesh, not of the mind.

Changing muscle memory is really tough, especially when it's 30 year old muscle memory. But the double Ian knot was so compelling and easy, I actually made the effort over the course of about a year to make it my standard knot. It was really hard at first. I felt like a 3-year-old trying to learn how to finger paint for the first time. It got easier over time, but it really was one of the most difficult things I've had to change about myself, ever. It was like changing from brushing your teeth with your dominant hand to your less dominant hand.

And yet, it was worth it. The double Ian knot is incredible. Something so simple and yet made such a change in my life...

Me too - I've used Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot for the last ten years or so, and never since have my shoelaces ever come undone, nor have they ever been difficult to untie. It's a small thing, but it will benefit me in a minor way for the rest of my life.

Totally agreed, I learned Ian's secure knot 10 or so years ago, and not only do my shoes never come undone, but I've also taught a whole pile of people it as well!

10 years ago I discovered this site. To this day I still use the Ian quick knot as my go-to. I still shock people when I can tie a perfect bow knot with any material.

> Changing muscle memory is really tough

When I learned the ians knot from a friend, it took me around 15 minutes of simply not getting it. But once it clicked I haven't tied anything else since.

I understood how to tie the knot. The trick was making myself tie that knot instead of the old style. It was an automatic motion.

Same here. We tried a few different explanations, some may have been from another source than Ian, but eventually the penny dropped, and now I always tie my shoes way faster than ever before.

Ah! This page was on the front page of somethingawful a good ten years ago. At the time I had shoes with particularly slippery laces, so I started using Ian's Secure Knot, and never looked back: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Oh interesting! I've used the Ian knot for about 10 years now and hadn't even considered looking for anything else.

Quite a lot of sailing has given me a good appreciation of knots. It's amazing how (when you're doing a lot of rope work) you can get a real instinctive sense of the pressures on a knot and how to create the best knot for the situation. In ocean racing there are places you have unusual needs (like tethering the running backstays to the cars while you adjust the angles).

Believe it or (k)not, there a branch of mathematical topology dedicated to knot theory.



I think I've used this one as well for about 7 or 8 years. I can recall an accidental untie exactly once. It's also fantastic because it makes for a much more symmetric, shapely knot.

I learned about, and kind of use a variant of, the secure knot from this site starting from a number of years ago. I find that I'm lazy and it's easier for me to loop one bunny ear twice over (asymmetrically) rather than both ears once each (symmetrically). Old habits means that I'm used to using my left hand to loop the ear and then my right hand to pull it taut.

Maybe I'll try to do it symmetrically more often.

I can also highly recommend this shoelace knot.

I'll vouch for the "Ian Knot". Throughout my life I had to double-tie the classic shoelace knot or else it would come loose a some point during the day. Then I tried the Ian Knot. It is significantly faster and easier. And, now I have some laced shoes that I just slip on because they stay tied for weeks instead of hours.


I tried the Ian Knot, found it fiddly to tie. I use a standard knot by force of habit or when I can't stand having unties, or the laces are long, I use a Surgeons Knot.

The Surgeons Knot is just a standard shoelace tie with 2 slight modifications - when you overlap the 2 sides of the lace you tuck the lace under twice. This, like a Timber Hitch, creates much more contact area and thus much more friction.

I have (not from that site) switched the way I tie a standard knot as I was doing grannies instead of reef-knots. This seems to have prevented unwanted unties.

vouch for the surgeons knot. watched the ted video for correctly tying shoe laces. surgeon knot was only one more loop. i have shoes with rounded laces that comes undone easily, this fixed the problem.

I used the Ian Knot for a while, but then went back to one of the standard methods. The difficulty I had with the Ian Knot was when I wanted the laces to be tight. With the standard methods I was able to pull the laces tight, then keep the Starting Knot tight also as I tied the final loops. With the Ian Knot, it was hard to keep the Starting Knot tight whilst I tied the loops.

I find it weird how he calls himself the inventor. This knot is decades old if not centuries.

I concur. I'd always had problems with some tennis shoes with strings being short and thick, causing them to untie in the middle of a session. Has never been a problem since I learned that knot.

I've been using the Ian Knot for the past few years, never had a problem.

Seconded. Came to post this exactly.

I'm always fascinated with how deep some niche-topics are. I mean, it's just a shoelace and very few people think about it at all. So cool!

Fun fact: searching for 'shoelace' on google puts this site on third place for me, right after shoelace.com and the wikipedia entry.

edit: Ian Figgen is the inventor of the Ian knot that somebody else has posted here. He has to be _really_ into shoelacing!

Ian's site is a blast from the distant past when a majority of the websites on the net were about super niche topics curated by some enthusiast.

One thing that's worth noting about the classic bow shoelace knot is that no-one seems to know how to do them. The right way to do it is with the bow knot reflected relative to the base knot below it, like a reef knot, rather than oriented the same way, like a granny knot. I never knew this until a few years ago and since I've started doing it, I've stopped needing to double-knot my laces - they're secure enough for me with a single knot done properly. I always try to explain this to people when I get a chance, and no-one else seems to know about it, either.

I see there's a page about this on the site: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknot.htm

I was taught how to tie my shoelaces by my granny, and sure enough, I was doing granny knots, and I was frustrated with some shoes, because the shoelaces would just come undone, and you'd have to double-tie the knot or something.

Until, at the ripe old age of 32, when a friend tipped me about Ian's shoelace site, and I finally learned how to tie my shoelaces properly.

It's a great example of not knowing what you don't know, because shoelaces, right?

Same here, noted how someone tried their leaves as it looked peculiar. Realised I was effectively tying grannies, changed the direction of my second loop; far more secure.

To me it's fascinating as it's something taught at a very early age, something used nearly every day, yet something a lot people seem to do "wrong" (inefficiently) by habit or ignorance.

But now my kids know and can suffer less unties, so that's good.

Similar thing for me, the "use a food packet as a bowl" trick (eg for crisps/potatoe chips).

No joke, here's a TED talk on the subject: https://www.ted.com/talks/terry_moore_how_to_tie_your_shoes

True that almost no one knows how or why, but about 50% get it right by chance. I had the same experience as you.

this site comes up often and it usually sparks conversations about shoelaces, but i want to see the algorithms(o) and database schema

the consistency in the images, and the seemingly exhaustive quantity, implies they were algorithmically generated

i would love if each image had a build array that documented how to draw the laces using a minimalist(i) notation representing connections and nodes

this paired with simple client side code could have the images created dynamically with less work for the server and less data being sent across wire.. a random photo(ii) from the 'dis' method(iii) was 2.7K

instead it seems the server either stores or creates html with the images hard coded and serves up the images associated with the method, though the image file names are encouraging of a meticulously normalised underlying abstraction

i think an appreciation, either conscious or unconscious, for this underlying abstraction is part of the attraction to this project

(o) http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/2trillionmethods.htm

(i) http://www.fieggen.com/software/info.htm

(ii) http://www.fieggen.com/la/ya-d+.png

(iii) http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/displayshoelacing.htm

Like you, I'd love to pass a simple minimalist string to a Javascript code to render images client-side. My more recent "Create-a-Lace" does just that, dynamically generating all the .svg images using client-side Javascript. However, I've yet to see browsers correctly render shadows, without which the diagrams lose depth. When that hurdle is overcome, I may well extend this concept to all lacing methods.

In the meantime, I do indeed need to resort to some 600+ individual .png images in order to render each of the 50+ lacing methods with their many variations and multiple numbers of eyelet pairs.

this is great, yeah i investigated the create a lace after i wrote the comment, generalising that effort would seem to save you some server resources!

honestly, i think you should consider working on some indirect educational material

it seems your shoelace site encourages appreciation for mathematical abstractions in both those that study them and those unaware

you've created one of those rare works wherein anyone who encounters it speaks highly of it

great work on the site!

It's possible that you didn't find: http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/create-a-lace.htm which strongly hints at them being algorithmically generated either up-front or JIT.

I have an adblock (ublock); I almost never clicked an ad willingly in my life.

But on that website I clicked almost all the banners.

This website is awesome. Designers, "content creators" and advertisers should learn from him.

I agree, and it's also amazing to me to see how well he's maintained the site in the ten years since I first saw it, including a tongue-in-cheek, clickbait-style granny knot celebs page[1], that produced a laugh-out-loud moment for me.

[1] http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknottingcelebs.htm

This is how I do 'Ian's knot': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbaHxsilsKI

I love sites like this, that prove content wins out over everything else.

I found this site a few months ago and it has been so great. I wear boat shoes everyday and if you've ever worn boat shoes, you know they don't like to stay tied. Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot keeps my shoes tied for weeks at a time (at a minimum).

I love sites like this (and this one in particular). I remember stumbling on it many years ago, maybe a decade or more. No idea how I found it, but the secure knot is useful knowledge that's stuck with me all those years, and has come in handy many times. I don't really care anything about shoelaces, but I'm happy someone else does and built an enduring monument to that enthusiasm.

Last year, I learned Ian's Secure Knot[1]. It took under an hour of study and practice once, and my life was slightly improved every day from then on. Never had my laces come untied since then. Great ROI.

[1] http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Same. Taught my kids to use this knot too. I never have to re-tie their shoes. I think this knot is easier to teach and tie than the classic knot.

I like the Turquoise Turtle Shoelace Knot.[1]

It's almost exactly like the "standard" shoelace knot I've used most of my life, but with just an extra tuck, and it virtually never unintentionally gets untied. It's fast, easy to put on and easy to take off. Highly recommended.

I also like Perry's Perpetual Knot.[2][3][4][5][6]

The idea behind it is that you only ever tie it once, and then only ever have to loosen and tighten it rather than re-tie it.

On one pair of shoes, I had Perry's Perpetual Knot adjusted so that I never even had to loosen or tighten it either. From then on I'd just slip my shoes on and off without needing to adjust it or re-tie it.

[1] - http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/turquoiseturtleknot.htm

[2] - http://web.archive.org/web/20051203081429/http://web.ukonlin...

[3] - https://s24.postimg.org/ng1fp6lj9/perrys_perpetual_knot.png

[4] - https://i.imgsafe.org/bee20e4850.png

[5] - http://i.imgur.com/mzyXuet.png

[6] - I'm uploading the instruction image to a bunch of image hosting sites, so hopefully the instructions will be available "perpetually", since archive.org doesn't even seem to have saved them.

I do the standard shoelace knot the other way round from his page ( http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/standardknot.htm). I bet I've saved at least 1 minute over the past 35 years from doing this.

1. start with left over right starting knot

2. hold loop in left hand, thumb and index finger

3. feed other lace round the front, holding it with right thumb+index finger, then round the back, then through the hole, so it lands on the pad of your left thumb

4. use left thumb and right index finger to push/pull loop through hole, then grab it with left middle finger as it comes through (your thumb can remain in place)

5. use right thumb and 2nd/3rd phalange of right index finger to hold other loop (you'll probably be in roughly this position already by now)

6. well done, you've caught the rabbit :) (In this story, it does not escape.) Now pull its ears.

(If you'd rather have the loop in your right hand, no problem, but start with a right-over-left knot in step 1 I suppose.)

This is a superior approach, I think, because of how the lace meets your stationary thumb at the end of step 3 rather than your stationary finger, allowing a smoother step 4. I'm struggling to explain this coherently but basically you need multiple digits on the other side in order to quickly move your grip on the loop from one side of the main knot to the other. But if it's your thumb on the other side, you've only got the one digit...

(Maybe I just got it wrong while trying it out, though? This is after all literally the habit of a lifetime. The above is just based on my trying to figure out why the other way round felt inefficient, even after taking into account the basic difficulty of actually doing it in the first place.)

Well described! The fingers are indeed in superior positions for grabbing the bunny ears.

I really think websites should be like this. Informative and easy to use without bloating javascript behind.

He is featured prominently in David Rees' Going Deep episode about how to tie your shoelaces. That whole program is a gem, and people like this should be celebrated.

Nicholson Baker's _The Mezzanine_ is a meditation on innovations of the post-industrial world, the inanities of corporate culture, and a humorous look at a somewhat neurotic obsessive who identifies points of personal hygiene as major milestones in his personal development.

A quote from my well-worn copy:

  | I tried to call up some sample memories of shoe-tying to
  | determine whether one shoe tended to come untied more often
  | than another. What I found was that I did not retain a single
  | specific engram of tying a shoe, or a pair of shoes, that dated
  | from any later than when I was four or five years old, the age at
  | which I had first learned the skill. Over twenty years of empiri-
  | cal data were lost forever, a complete blank. But I suppose this
  | is often true of moments of life that are remembered as major
  | advances: the discovery is the crucial thing, not its repeated
  | later applications. As it happened, the first three major advances
  | in my life--and I will list all the advances here--
  | 1. shoe-tying
  | 2. pulling up on Xs
  | 3. steadying hand against sneaker when tying
  | 4. brushing tongue as well as teeth
  | 5. putting on deodorant after I was fully dressed
  | 6. discovering that sweeping was fun
  | 7. ordering a rubber stamp with my address on it to make bill-
  |    paying more efficient
  | 8. deciding that brain cells ought to die
  | --have to do with shoe-tying, but I don't think that this fact is
  | very unusual.
The novel begins as the narrator, Howie, returns to work after purchasing new shoelaces to replace the ones which broke as he was tying his shoes.

The novel is fantastic if you enjoy meditative digressions regarding everyday inventions. I recommend it highly.

EDIT: add recommendation, fix OCR mistakes, punctuation.

Never seen someone so passionate about shoelaces. It's great that a site like this exists. Wonder what other niche sites I'm missing out on.


This is fascinating: Coldwar era CIA agents lacing their shoes as "a form of covert signalling, using straight segments interspersed with one or more visible crossovers at different positions."

I've been using the Mega Ian Knot (http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/megaianknot.htm) for the past 6 months or so.

It's the most secure of the knots and is visually appealing, but is somewhat tricky to tie. I've got a fair amount of experience with knots, but it took me about an hour of practice to be able to tie it reliably and (relatively) quickly.

I'm not necessarily recommending this to other people; in the effectiveness-difficulty tradeoff, it carries a fairly substantial difficulty penalty that probably isn't really worth it. But there's something about using the ultimate shoelace knot that appeals to me, so I thought I'd mention it.

That's how I tie plastic bags. I think I learned it some twelve years ago from a friend.

Its really secure and, from my point of view, really easy and simple to do. However, Im trying to tech it to my wife and for some reason it seems really hard for people not used to it to grasp and be able to make it in a competent way.

One of the realest sites ever made. Cheers Ian for your fantastic example of how the internet should work.

Thanks, everyone, for stopping by and visiting my shoelace website. Fun to see that it is still highly respected, and from folks such as yourselves, that's pretty cool!

It has been said elsewhere, but I want you to notice this: YOU MAKE THE INTERWEBS

Because of you, and people like you I'm proud to have grown up not in any one country, city, block or street; but on the Internet.

Thanks for your kind words. It is mind-blowing to share knowledge with people from all around the world. Hopefully my humble website remains visible amidst the ever-growing hubbub of business that the internet has since become.

I used this site to learn about the Army Lacing [1] for a pair of boots that would normally take ten minutes to take off when I get home.

It seems silly, but learning an improved lacing method has not only saved me a lot of time in a given day, but its prevented unnecessary stress. The method gives a fantastic, tight fit that's incredibly easy to loosen.

[1] http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/armylacing.htm

There is also a book on the mathematics of lacing your shoes:

The Shoelace Book: A Mathematical Guide to the Best (And Worst) Ways to Lace Your Shoes


I've found this site something like 10 years ago and changed how I tie my shoes. I do a double loop thing and I never have to stop to tie them back because they came loose. Whenever I see a soccer player stop to tie his laces I laugh and say that that should be the first thing the coaches teach and this site would be a great resource for that.

I came across this site at least 5 years ago and I learned from it I've been tying my shoes incorrectly my entire life. I always wondered why my shoe laces needed retying multiple times a day, even with double knotting. I had to relearn how to tie my shoes and it's been a significant improvement in my life, as odd as that sounds.

I lace my shoes mostly only once: right after buying them. Then I just put foot in/out of it like that. Convenient :)

!! I have found it again! Thank you! Because of a "share some cool website every day" program in jr high, I used this website and had the zipper lacing on my shoes for a long time. And to this day I only ever use the double Ian knot any more - but I could never find this site again. Here it is! :)

Fun tech crossover, the word "aglet". In addition to the shoelace word, it was also the name of a Java mobile agents framework from IBM ~1997. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aglets

There is an episode of Phineas and Ferb in which the boys decide to spread the word about aglets:

http://phineasandferb.wikia.com/wiki/Tip_of_the_Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evcsj1gx1CE

I once explained to a co-worker that we needed to buy a packet of "ethernet aglets." They knew exactly what I was talking about, and to this day I still don't know what the actual name for the things is.

My guess, based on the similarity to aglets, would be coax terminators?

I've recently stopped lacing my shoes after discovering Lace Anchors:


I personally don't use them (too expensive) and use a knot instead.

I haven't noticed a difference in fit or comfort for casual shoes.

This fills me with anxiety - "Oh my god, are there superior knots and lacing patterns out there that I've been missing out on?!?! Where will I find the time to learn them?!?! Will I do like I often do, give up and revert to ORDINARY KNOTS?!¿!"

Dammit, I need a crib sheet that puts the tying steps all on one page -- it's a real pain stopping in between steps to scroll down, then trying to get my fingers back into the correct position.

Shoutout to the checkerboard laces I sported in middle school thanks to this site.

This guy is awesome. Back in undergrad, I started an online boutique for hard to find shoes and he let me reproduce some of his content on my site. At the time, I thought it would help with SEO.

Wow, glad to find this! I'd somehow come across the Ian Knot about 20 years ago (is that possible?!) and have been tying my shoes (and anything requiring the same knot) that way since.

There was a fairly widely shared video EXE floating around for a bit more than twenty years, quite certain it was one of the first videos I watched on my Windows PC and I still remember it to this day.

That would have been my "IAN-KNOT.COM" executable animation, which was first built in Jul-1993 and then optimised in Feb-1994, and which was uploaded to various BBSs (as we did in the years before The Internet.) I should put that program on my website for old times' sake!

Apparently the way I've always tied my laces (the only way I've ever known) is the Ian knot. I had no idea that's different than what most people do. Good to know!

He's really missed out on the chance to sell a ton of laces.

I learned to tie my shoelaces as a grown man from this website.

I remember in grade 7, 2002ish before reddit was invented and the internet was discoverable, I somehow found this site and spent several days poring through it.

I never knew there were so many ways to tie shoelaces! In fairness though, it's not something I've ever thought about either.

I kinda have a soft spot for sites like this that look like they were made in the 90's. Respect for the old web.

Oh yeah, I learned how to tie my shoelaces properly on this site. Probably saw it five or ten years ago.

I was disturbingly excited to discover why my laces have been coming undone for 44 years.

My god. How could I have been doing something so simple wrong for 40+ years.

I abandoned shoes with laces about 10 years ago. Only got such with zippers (boots) or elastic straps left (sneakers). Probably saved me a few days of life since then ;)

What methods do people prefer for boots?

i read this as 'Iran's shoelace site' whoops

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