I mean, fundamentally my position is the same as Anil Dash's, in his famous essay: "if your website is full of assholes, it's your fault." Trying to separate out "political" from "apolitical" topics is not going to solve the fucking problem. Being better moderators and not letting people be tremendous bigots even if they're 'civil' are the ways to fix the problem. But Hacker News is never, ever going to do that, and i see absolutely no reason why those of us who feel like that's a problem should absolve them of responsibility for it.