Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

That's potentially a valid concern, but this attitude is why most people just use Messenger, iMessage, and WhatsApp etc.

I don't want something that is perfectly secure, I want something I can run on servers I control, so that every message I send doesn't go through, and be stored on, servers controlled by the big four.

TOX is a great example, as all the services like this try too hard to be perfectly secure, rather than trying to be user friendly. Most people just want something that lets them easily message their friends, and are willing to sacrifice privacy (quite possibly because they are oblivious to it) to have that.

Even OTR + ICQ/AOL/MSN Messenger were better than what we have now in terms of security and privacy, but people gave those up for simplicity.

Guidelines | FAQ | Support | API | Security | Lists | Bookmarklet | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact