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Yep. Looks like it's now called "1for.one". Their CEO has a stock photo on LinkedIn and owned a mining corp.

*WrkRiot. 1forOne's twitter and facebook profiles are gone and WrkRiot matches the description perfectly (including the doggy avatar and a large number of Asian employees).

It's actually dangerously obvious who some of the people mentioned in the story are, just from the descriptions. It might be a good idea to anonymize characters further by changing ethnicity/nationality and gender.

Why? Shouldn't we be encouraging people who out bad actors?

"Name and shame" feels good but there's a huge danger in pillorying people just based on a single person's account.

WrkRiot seems to be the company in question and their online presence is so laughable nobody here likely feels bad for making fun of them, especially because of the behaviour the author describes. But the story is not just about a company but also about individuals.

Consider WrkRiot's head of marketing, for example. The author portrays her very negatively (outright trying to take the author's credit, being generally incompetent and engaging in deceptive and hostile practices). Whether you personally find the author trustworthy or not, if you only go by the article this is essentially hearsay.

Whether the allegations are true or not, she might face problems because of them (e.g. when trying to apply to new jobs). The author OTOH can maintain plausible deniability because the article never explicitly named any names (just gave enough identifying information to allow HNers to deduct the identity of the company and the employees).

I'm not saying the author is lying. I'm not saying WrkRiot or its CEO is innocent. I'm just saying there's no way to know as an outside how much of the story is true and what details have been left out (knowingly or not).

This is why in criminal investigations "due process" is a thing. Otherwise you end up with mob rule and character assassination -- and accusations tend to stick even if they're proven wrong and malicious.

It should be noted that the criminal justice system is not there to give justice to individuals. The district attorney functions as the representative of state interests.

If you are a victim of medical malpractice, the district attorney will not find healing for you. If someone wrongfully injures you, a criminal case will not return even an inch of your wholesomeness. If someone cheats or robs you of $50k, the district attorney will not help you pay your bills.

Civil court is the provided forum for issues of individual justice, and there individuals will find themselves paying alone, and in a position of imbalance, only a stupid person would fight for themselves. In the game of civil justice, where one might seek healing or remedy, you must pay for the prerogative to play.

True, but at least some of the accusations seem to imply criminal behaviour on part of the founder(s). Manipulating screenshots from the bank and passing them off as real sounds like forgery to me -- but I admit I'm not intimately familiar with the US criminal justice system.

That said, of course there are safe conclusions to draw from this story (especially the ones that hold true in general) but all personal accusations should always be taken with a grain of salt, especially if you have no personal knowledge of any of the people involved.

> If you are a victim of medical malpractice, the district attorney will not find healing for you. If someone wrongfully injures you, a criminal case will not return even an inch of your wholesomeness. If someone cheats or robs you of $50k, the district attorney will not help you pay your bills.

This is not entirely true. While the general civil/criminal purpose distinction you make is broadly correct, there are provisions for "restitution" within the criminal court system that overlap substantially with the compensatory function of the civil court system, so its not accurate to say that the DA will not help you recover funds or that a criminal case will not restore your losses.

See, e.g., http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/victim_services/docs/restitution_guid...

Disagree. If somebody fucks you over, you out them.

Just because it's "hearsay" in the sense that it's only one person's account doesn't mean one should have to anonymize everything.

I understand where you're coming from, and initially had upvoted your comment. The problem is that there are shifting goalposts as to the definition of "fuck over". Here specifically it's pretty clear some unethical and illegal behavior occurred. There's no question it was right to out the shitty company. But encouraging people to out people they feel they've been wronged by sets the stage for tragic mistakes. The media is especially guilty of this, even if it isn't outright libel. I would be much more agreeable to your suggestion if people were generally much less trusting. But people are really awful at critical thinking with this kind of thing.

I guess that's true.

Yes, we should out bad actors. But we should also avoid witch hunts. I agree with pluma 100% here. Plausible deniability is important as there are always at least two sides to every story.

That said, Penny's account of life at the mystery startup sounds startlingly like that of my experience at Motionloft many years ago. The difference there is that the (ex-)CEO was convicted, and my experience was corroborated by another ex-employee and by one extremely pissed off vendor.

Context for the Motionloft story (it's a good read): https://techcrunch.com/2013/12/30/motionloft-jon-mills/

I loved the idea of MotionLoft, FWIW

I wasn't crazy about the idea, but the stack was interesting (and gave me some great learning opportunities). Ultimately Motionloft was more marketing than tech driven and I bailed right around the time Mills hoovered up all the money.

Probably for cya reasons, especially when filing for retaliation.

Amusingly the `whois` records for wrkroit.com mention 1FOR.ONE CORPORATION as the registrant organization. Here is a snippet of the records:

  Domain Name: WRKRIOT.COM
  Creation Date: 25-aug-2016
  Registrant Name: ISAAC CHOI
  Registrant Organization: 1FOR.ONE CORPORATION
  Registrant Street: 2005 DE LA CRUZ BLVD
  Registrant Street: SUITE 131
  Registrant City: SANTA CLARA
  Registrant State/Province: CA
  Registrant Postal Code: 95050
  Registrant Country: US
  Registrant Phone: +1.4083447484

I think 1for.one is the old name, then they changed it to jobsonic and, more recently, to wrkriot.com.

I've looked at a bunch of things and you're correct. the 1for.one precedes jobsonic. Basically just this summer it's had 3 separate names.

Wow, the author's description "anti-SEO name" doesn't quite do these justice. "1for.one" is cringey but "wrkriot.com" is just straight VC repellent.

Not disputing you, but why is WrkRiot so repellent? It's unique and recognizable. I'll admit that "Riot" is just weird, but is that the main reason?

(not trolling, I'm serious)

This is just pure opinion, but to me it is hard to read and unprofessional. It is certainly unique, but it doesn't project seriousness, which is what I want out of a job discovery service. Omitting the vowel just has the ring of a shady knockoff, scammer, or malware site that capitalizes on typos. Maybe I'm just not used to seeing the consonant string in trademarks or company names, but it strikes me as peculiar rather than creative or edgy.

Second thought: this is a company which can't even manage to register "workriot.com". Even if "WrkRiot" is the brand, I would expect them to grab the domain with the more obvious spelling and have it redirect to wrkriot, but it turns out "workriot.com" is registered to a Finnish hosting provider sitting on the domain. So to recap: the domain with the more obvious alternate spelling of the company is (very likely) up for sale but they still haven't managed to acquire it. That does not engender much confidence in their marketing or management.

Yes, I think I would pass on this venture.

In general misspellings are considered bad for SEO because search engines suggest correcting their name to something else. I'm not sure whether that applies here but I have seen it for startups that vowel drop weirdly, etc.

Thank you for the SEO-specific reply. I was curious about that aspect, opinions on professionalism aside.

Because misspelling your name, while quirky, doesn't exactly express professionalism.


The website doesn't look like anything that would come out from a team of developers/designer. It looks like one man side project really...

The pixelation on those step headers made me cry a little on the inside.

It's profoundly terrible.

And analyst at JP Morgan...

jobsonic.com = expired squarespace site...

On crunchbase they are now wrkriot: http://www.wrkriot.com/team-1/

Landing page:

> WrkRiot pulls signals from your resume and matches them to job posts. That's right, we do the searching for you. We'll be updating this section with videos, walk thru's and more.

"walk thru's"? This website looks like garbage

Just look at the blog too. I'm not sure who thought that a blog post entitled "10 WAYS TO SURVIVE AT WORK WITHOUT SLEEP" would be a hit with job seekers. (Not to mention that 100% of their blog content -- 7 posts -- was posted 3 days ago)

10 WAYS TO SURVIVE AT WORK WITHOUT SLEEP: www.wrkriot.com/blog/2016/8/26/10-ways-to-survive-at-work-without-sleep

Guess employees are the target audience for this post.

Yeah, but shouldn't all 10 steps be "find a new job"?

Guess this company needs to work on robots.

Replace employees with robots and write a blog post: HOW WE WORK 24x7

The content to it was horrendous. Just scanned the 10 points out of morbid curiosity, and the last one is "see a doctor."

Seems like they think its normal to work tirelessly through out the day and night.

I'm blocked by a sign in page. Did they take down the blog in the last day?

It's too bad no one archived that blog post about how to get by without sleeping. It was very personal, and very stupid. If anything, it was evidence that this company didn't have a clue and was letting its social media person fill the blog with crap (which was unread by the executives) just so that it looked like the company was doing stuff.

It was up a couple of hours ago. Seems like they went full retard and nuked a lot of things, including their websites, tweets, etc.

All of their blog posts seem to have been posted on the same day...

it's all behind a password wall now though you can find some pages via google cache

Yep. Just looked at the Wrkriot Facebook page. Previous posts have the old name... and the Spongebob memes

Almost all the reviews are from people working there which I'm sure you're not supposed to do. It's dishonest at the very least.

"Isaac Choi" - I'm starting to imagine the lie was that he had a Chinese company scrub his name and he's not called Isaac or Michael. Having other people pay the cheques saves giving his name away too.

this is a South Korean name. And the author of this article is also Korean. That's why she mentions they use "second language" to mimic Chinese employees


At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if it was "Mr Bean".

How can you tell that this is probably his real name?

Phonetically similar. It's one way to choose an English name.


The page now requires a password. The page cached by Google: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cMRXCID...

wrkriot.com is a current squarespace site.


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