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They run deterministicaly though, making them much safer. I've done migrations with these tools that would be impossible with redgate, clients could be several months out of date since an upgrade and the migrations would just work. I've seen redgate/ssdt need manual coaching after just a few weeks.

I also think your over estimating the popularity of red gate. A minority of places use it, whereas a lot use EF migrations.




Literally every place I've worked uses red gate.

I've never had an issue with it, If you make sure your database is constantly up to date. So changes are small.


> Literally every place I've worked uses red gate.

I've had the opposite experience, I've only been at one place that used it and a couple that considered it.

> I've never had an issue with it, If you make sure your database is constantly up to date. So changes are small.

This is not an option in many places, if you have 3 month release cycles for instance (although I favor continuous deployment). Another is when you have apps installed on site, some clients can be multiple versions behind.




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