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Pivotal's goal is to change the way the world makes software and we kinda sorta really mean it.

We value aptitude over alma mater, empathy over a list of APIs. It doesn't matter whether your resumé says PHP or PhD: if you're smart, empathetic and know some stuff, we want to work with you.

We have offices in SF, NYC, Santa Monica/LA, Palo Alto, Seattle, Boulder, Denver, Chicago, Boston, Washington DC, Atlanta, Austin, Dallas/Ft Worth, Toronto, London, Paris, Dublin, Tokyo, Sydney, Berlin, Singapore and Beijing, with more coming, though not all are hiring.

We're broken into three main divisions: Pivotal Labs (yes, that Pivotal Labs), Pivotal Cloud R&D and Pivotal Big Data.

-- Pivotal Labs helps clients to become better at product development. For engineering we are religiously lean and agile. In practice that means we pair program and TDD every line of code from the outside. Our product managers are fantastic at keeping products sharply focused, our designers are masters from users to pixels.

-- Cloud R&D is where we build the best cloud platform available. We're the majority contributors to the Cloud Foundry project. Our distribution has the fastest-growing sales of any opensource product ever and it's still zooming up and to the right.

Except for upstream code, every line is pair programmed and TDD'd. We dogfood the cutting edge of the technology on our own commercial public cloud (Pivotal Web Services). It works because we took the XP and Lean DNA of Pivotal Labs and scaled it up to build the best cloud platform available.

-- Big Data is our suite of battled-hardened products, now open sourced. Greenplum tackles massive datasets with the comfort of PostgreSQL. Apache HAWQ (incubating) brings Greenplum's distributed query planner to Hadoop. Gemfire, donated as Apache Geode (incubating), is an in-memory distributed grid with years of high performance in high-stakes systems.

-- Generally

At our offices we have free breakfast, weekly tech talks, excellent benefits and competitive pay. Ping pong isn't mandatory, but it's popular. I think west-coast ping pong is harder to beat, but east-coast style is more entertaining to watch. The beer fridge has more IPA than I prefer but I guess that's life in paradise.

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You can also email me at jchester+hn@pivotal.io to answer any questions you might have.

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I may not be able to reply immediately, as I am just an engineer here.




> It doesn't matter whether your resumé says PHP or PhD

Please remove this line from your job ads, It's belittling and adds absolutely nothing. there are other way to say that you're language agnostic.


I don't think they're trying to belittle anyone, or say that they're language agnostic. To me it says that they're not hung up on past experience, so you should feel free to apply if you have what it takes.


That was the intent, but since the intent is not coming through clearly, I'll take it out next time.


FWIW I thought it came through fine


Communication takes two participants; this thread showed that some folks are reading it as a personal attack on them or as a personal attack on others.

It's more important to me that I don't personally turn people off Pivotal. We talk a lot about empathy. I'm only human, sometimes I miss the mark. But we also talk about adapting to new information.

It's likely that I have accidentally turned away a bunch of bright people. Which works against my own interests and Pivotal's interests.

So given a choice between a little bit of literary flair and not coming across as mean, at the next opportunity, I'm going to choose to cut it out.


Don't let one or two people be the deciding factor when it was probably the best line out of any submission I've read.

The meaning was incredibly clear, to a point where I can't even fathom how there could be a misunderstanding.

You even said yourself that the inspiration was two people who were hesitant because of their PHP/PhD backgrounds, and I bet there are far more of those out there whom you're inviting to apply.

You'll never please everyone.


It's past the edit window now, but I'll take it out next time.

I liked it because it rhymes.

And you would quite honestly be surprised how many people email being nervous about either their PHP background or their PhDs.

Two such emails arrived in short succession a few months back, which is where I got the original inspiration.


Yup, let's live in a society where everyone gets a trophy!


I don't think that is what he was saying, the implication was that people who use PHP are less intelligent than people with PHD's.


> the implication was that people who use PHP are less intelligent than people with PHD's.

That was not the intended meaning. I was trying to convey that any background, industrial or academic, regardless of cultural norms about those backgrounds, are welcome.

Also, it rhymed and I like rhymes.

I've done work in PHP. Also in Ruby, Java, Python, Golang, PL/SQL and I forget the rest.

I also have a fancy computer science degree. Its main use is to make my apartment look a little prettier, and to qualify me for an E3 visa.

The point is that it really doesn't matter that much. If you have some nous and some experience and we can get along, that's the fit we want.


Which is generally true. Why is this such an issue. Computer Science PHDs are on average definitely smarter than web developers.

I think this comment and the ones above are a micro example of the politically correct culture we live in. Why cant someone make a statement about the advantages/difference in traits between two groups of people? Is this so dreadful?


>Computer Science PHDs are on average definitely smarter than web developers

Depends on context. If you actually want something built I'd take the Web Dev any day.


Yeah, but that's because coding web sites is their main skill set. It says nothing about their raw cognition, except that it's above some necessary level.




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