It's even sillier than that. Comodo has long offered a 90 day free trial cert. You have to pay to renew.
Let's Encrypt gives a 90 day free cert that's freely renewable as many times as you want along with an API to renew it. These aren't the same business models at all.
What I don't get is why the CEO of Comodo, all the people on the thread all seem to assume Let's Encrypt has a business model, and that they are a competitor. The Comodo CEO seemed to keep coming back to that point, taking all of this personally. There is no business model to steal from Comodo because Let's Encrypt is not a business. And people kept responding and upholding that assumption?
Can someone give me a sanity check here on my logic? Am I the only person who sees this?
I think Comodo was crazy here, but I can totally understand why they see Let's Encrypt as a threat.
Also, by your argument, why would any CA allow the ISRG to use their certificates to sign free certificates? In the article I linked, there was a good argument made that creating a free SSL cert creates or enhances the market for more expensive certificates. There's a path open.
Nonprofits need business models too.
If by "business model" you mean, "how do we keep the lights going", that's fair. However, that's not the primary mission of Let's Encrypt.
That was roughly my read. While "business" is frequently used as a synonym for "for profit company", that's not the only definition. Someone saying "that's none of your business" is unlikely to be talking about S corps.
> However, that's not the primary mission of Let's Encrypt.
It's the means by which they accomplish their primary mission. Can't encrypt the world if you can't keep your servers on.
The point Comodo guy is trying to make is they invented/own the 90-day certificate, or specifically the magic number 90.
If they actually do he has the moral right to be upset (but of course that doesn't mean trademark law or common sense stop being applicable to the words "Let's encrypt")
Seriously? Even the US patent office would balk at an application to patent 90-day trials or 90-day certificates. Also, Let's Encrypt isn't doing trials, so patenting the first wouldn't even make sense.