I'm excited that this button launched. But $20 is too much for something without a swappable battery. I'll either keep intercepting the ARP packets from the $5 unit or buy https://www.particle.io/button.
How long will the battery last?
The battery should last for approximately 1,000 presses.
When the device battery runs out of charge, there is no way to recharge or replace the battery.
In the same way free AWS instances are not adequate for hosting a production website, this is a toy for devs to get to know their stack...
The real question for this device is, is it hackable, i.e. can you change the software running on it, or open it up and solder different hardware to spare pins?
It looks like people have done this, but it's surprising amazon would sell a devboard without catering to it:
The difference being that AWS has real tiers. The dash button is exactly the same even if you "go pro" (what does that even mean? You persuade your BigCo employer to join the program?).
I suspect it's a last-gasp attempt at making some money out of a program that has not become as popular as they thought.
I kinda wanted one in the hopes that if it worked well, I could theoretically get a lot more to trigger actions for things with my Z-Wave setup.
20$/each isn't amazing but its not exactly terrible for this. But 20$/each/year (or less!), horrible.
I don't get why people like Amazon, none of their services are any good. Although to be fair, Amazon (the retail) doesn't exist in my country.
Care to back that statement up? :)
(no argument on the environmentally subpar approach to the button)
* The closest retail in Amazon is in GB or Germany, orders takes weeks to reach me which is a mystery since I've ordered stuff from Germany before and they usual deliver within a week.
* Closest AWS datacenter is in Ireland, latency is high for nordic countries.
* Their documentation is very confusing, you can read all about their web services without understanding one. Leading to sites like this: https://www.expeditedssl.com/aws-in-plain-english
But sure, their services works and is probably good for many, but I've never found them any useful at all.
Amazon cloud drive is fairly performant and a good price. I use it as a backup repo. Amazon prime shipping is also pretty great and the prices are pretty decent usually. They're also the biggest cross platform ebook vendor with the most selection.
No way at all in the entire universe not even with hand tools and a soldering iron?
And people say we are not moving to planned obculence ( sorry, don't know the English word for it)
Using the exact same hardware for a general purpose remote control seems like a mistake - an extremely limited product at best, an unnecessary source of ewaste at worst. A modified dash button with a replaceable battery would me much nicer, though I'm sure it's far cheaper to just sell a rebranded dash button.
I've been wondering about that. They say you can use it to control lights/netflix. If you don't want 10s delay it has to do wakeups every 30s or so depending on the wifi setup to stay connected to the network. And wifi transmission is quite power expensive. If it does that, I wouldn't give it more than a year (maybe more like a few months). If it doesn't, the latency must be terrible.
I used to be irritated with cheap led bulbs that took almost a second to light up. And with a wall switch you are pretty sure whether you flipped it or not. With such button during those 3s you'd be wondering whether you should press it again or not (unless it beeps or something like that).
This (and the Dash) come in a glued shell with a 1.5v Energizer Li AAA solder-welded to the back. Getting inside without completely destroying the curb-appeal takes a hex bit, some scraping, and a little patience.
Once you get to the board, the battery is easily replaced with a LiPo. The MCU is 3.3v, but Amazon Prime has you covered on cheap LDO/buck converters (like, "a buck" converters).
This limits use cases to infrequent-press applications.
"Amazon dash button lost in my house is being tapped and ordering bulk paper towels. Time to hunt down a wifi signal."
Why not just solder the contact? If it's soldered, you should be able to swap the battery with a soldering iron. Sure, heating the iron and cleaning it will take much more time than swapping a battery in a spring-loaded housing, but I've spent just as long opening battery compartments held shut with tiny stripped screws.
The better ones use a double pulse for a cleaner weld without the need for any flux.
I'll buy it the moment it lets me program it to suit my needs. It looks incredibly awesome and off the bat I can think of 4 places I'd love to use it (but none of them, unfortunately, have anything to do with heating or cooling).
Edit: I see now that it does indeed have "click" listed in the specs.
Bluetooth Beacon for occupant awareness
Wifi (Puck can act as its own gateway, no hub needed)
915MHz Radio for device to device communication
Infrared (IR) record/playback
Rotation and Click <---- Rotation is not on Amazons
E-ink Display <---- added
> So far positioned more as a heating and cooling device
Indeed, the website and esp. the pre-ordering process lets one think it's really dedicated to that use...
Why not have another page with a more general positioning, this could be used for anything!
Definitely need to add some marketing pages though, one for 'generic knob' examples, and then I actually think it would be best to split up the minisplit/window ac bits from central heating and cooling.
Your site mentions device to device comms. Is this user programmable?
Also display only shows temp. Are there other options?
The UI is reprogrammable without touching code also with 'microapps'. You could think of them as super lightweight shortcuts for adjusting things. You can see some examples on our twitter feed: https://twitter.com/flair_co
It's 4 times more expensive than their hackable Dash buttons ($20 vs $5), but apparently more powerful (and secure?) from the get-go.
 For example, see all the entries: https://hackaday.com/tag/amazon-dash/
That's interesting. A new product like this (no matter how seemingly small) takes some work, so to me this suggests that people hacking the "subsidized" buttons were a bigger use case then they'd planned for.
I also think it's quite ugly. I could imagine some repurposed giant old fire alarm for, say, code deploys. But not something that's reminicent of made in china ±10 years ago.
WIFI interruption? Button doesn't work.
Internet connection down? Button doesn't work.
Bad network congestion? Button doesn't work.
Amazon suffering DDOS? Button doesn't work.
Battery dies? Button doesn't work.
Too many presses? Button doesn't work.
Misconfigured server? Button doesn't work.
Certificate expiry? Button doesn't work.
"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." - Montgomery Scott
* Amazon ConfigureMe network uses WPA2 for the IoT button. No encryption for the branded button.
* IoT button has extra fields (according to the documentation) that the branded does not. They are for a certificate, private key, REST endpoint, region, and a checkbox to agree to TOC.
> For example, you can click the button to unlock or start a car, open your garage door, call a cab, call your spouse or a customer service representative
I'm so confused. So now, to open the garage door, I buy an internet device, and when i click it, it sends a message to a server, charges me 0.02$, runs some kind of "cloud" script that executes some kind of "rules", registers something in a database, and sends a message back to my garage door opener?
The future is weird.
I'm sure we can concoct some contrived examples where one needs to open a garage door without being present, but I really think this is more about the big tech companies trying to get vendor lock-in.
So my price just went up from $20 to $120. There goes that.
Amazon Dash button 5 $ - for shopping on amazon, hacks found for ifttt integration ( integrated with buying on amazon) : http://www.amazon.com/b?node=10667898011
https://www.particle.io/button 20 $ , integrated with ifttt
Product: ESP8266 => DIY 7$ IFTTT ( https://www.hackster.io/noelportugal/esp8266-ifttt-easy-butt... , https://hackaday.io/project/5673-esp8266-dash-button , http://www.instructables.com/id/Emergency-Button/ , https://github.com/sam1am/IFTTTButton)
Since this was mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this is actually $49. With a little work, the $19 Photon could certainly do the same.
not as elegant as their official IoT button, but it works (and dash buttons are 25% of the price)
edit: corrected my tired beer math
If they were four times cheaper, they'd be -$60. I think you meant they're 25% the price.
I'm looking at a raspi + button hardware right now but something already packaged with wifi would be a lot easier to use.
You can also directly order a PCB, if you want, although you'll have to solder the components yourself.
Competitors that I've been considering:
* https://flic.io/ (would have to be paired with a nearby Pi)
* http://www.dropletlife.com/ (not yet available)
My best recommendation would be build http://makeit.netflix.com/the-switch or go with the Particle option.
$20 is pretty comparable to most of the IoT "do anything when pressed" stuff I've seen on Kickstarter and elsewhere. It'd be a handy "arm my security system" sort of thing for me.
Compared to a button on a webapp (which can be pressed from your phone) that, when pressed, goes through API Gateway and then hits up Lambda? At which point you're paying $0.0000035 per press.
Borderlinx chat person said: "You are welcome. We can ship the item without any issue." but also "Regarding the Amazon prime membership issue please be advised to check further with merchant."
This is the product page:
 - https://www.justyo.co/
Has anyone seen a DYI that's cheap?
I'll replace the battery with a DC transformer and use one for demos.
The concept of running our code directly from IoT devices is something we've found pretty compelling but until now it was very much a DIY affair. It's exciting to see Amazon release hardware that does this out of the box, directly running our code, as basic as it might be.