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I'm your standard unix greybeard, the sort that uses org-mode to outline-structure their emacs config (that's actually what I do, not even a hypothetical), so I approached VSCode with skepticism.

I have actually been really impressed. It's fast and responsive, even on Linux, and the TypeScript tooling is fantastic. I think with a bit more UI work (like vi keybindings) it could potentially become my preferred editor.




I'm chuckling (not in a bad way!) at the emacs user that prefers vi keybindings expressing optimism about a Microsoft editor written in a statically typed variant of Javascript. Progress is cool.


I try my hardest to not be dogmatic, and my answer to the argument about vi having better keybindings while emacs having better extensibility is "why not both?" :) JavaScript is almost an acceptable lisp, too...


Why? emacs has had an "evil mode" (vi keybindings) for a while


additionally i would mention that this "Microsoft editor" runs with a web browser engine by google


You made my day. Didn't even notice the irony... :D


I've seen the vi keybindings complaint a few times in here, and it's my major complaint as well. There are a few plugins, but they just aren't even close to usable in my opinion.


amVim is doing well, and I can attest that its maintainer is both sharp and very humble (in contrast to a lot of what I've seen come out of this nouveau-OSS era that GitHub seems to have ushered in). It's a shame that more people seem to have flocked to the VSCodeVim extension instead. I guess there's something to be said for being the first to grab the "Vim" label to apply to yourself.

Having said all that, many of the unimplemented parts in extensions across the board come down to limitations in the VSCode extension APIs. I've been watching the VSCode team, and they're actually pretty sharp and welcoming, too, so most issues should be ironed out, given enough time. (Although it hasn't been prioritized at this point.)

However, the appropriate unit of measurement to describe how long I've been using Vim is "decades", and through observing (but never seriously using) the attempts to emulate it over the years, I've spent a lot of time thinking about what it would actually take for an app to really support Vim keybindings—aside from actually just being Vim. Unfortunately, even if we assume a team with infinite resources intent on achieving perfection, there are several things about Vim that prove to be irreconcilable with the way almost every interested app is implemented. The only way around this will have to come down to Vim users either collectively participating in some "Great Vim Shift", or just ignoring the remaining gaps entirely and continuing to put up with incomplete emulations.


Hi, we met again! Thanks for the positive words! Appreciated!




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