I was a bookmarking skeptic before I signed up for Pinboard. In fact, I think I got my Pinboard account as repayment for a favor Erin and I did for Maciej. But now, I have no idea what I would do without it. Pinboard has more or less become a search engine for my life.
Part of what makes Pinboard great is knowing it isn't going to break; it's going to keep doing what it says on the label, pretty much the way it does, and I'm never going to have to switch to some crazy iOS app or download an Electron shell or really even click or scroll on anything.
If you're not already using something like Pinboard, I think you should consider starting, right away, and probably the thing like Pinboard you should use is Pinboard.
If you're not following him on Twitter, you really should be.
I use it every day. It's hard to believe that in 2016 neither Chrome nor Safari has support for bookmark tags... my favorite feature of Pinboard.
Of all the partners at YC, I ran the startup that was the most different from everyone else. And my approach might be more aligned with your values. If you were seriously interested, I'd be delighted to work with you.
I feel like after seven years, I have a pretty good sense of what bookmarking/archiving needs people have, but am at the limits of what I can personally build. If the votes swing my way, I'd be happy to have a good-faith conversation with you.
Since a hosted bookmarking service obviously scales well, that can't be the heart of the Pinboard value prop. What does Pinboard do that no one does, that seems totally nonscalable?
How about @Pinboard? He's just one man, hand-crafting tweets about the SF tech industry in his spare time... it can't possible scale to every city and industry, can it? (Can it?) And bonus: the Twitter handle is producing $0 revenue!
The answer is clear: $100 million of investment. $50 million for a machine learning system that will ingest the @Pinboard snarky tweet corpus, and output tweets adapted to other industries and localities. And $50 million for a custom ad bidding system that injects subtle product placements into the tweets at the ###### possible CPC.
###### - If you are an investor, please read this as "highest". If you are a customer, please read this as "lowest."
EDIT - My numbers are all wrong. It should $20 million for the AI, $20 million for the ad system, $55 million for marketing and signing bonuses, and $5 million for the cafeteria.
$5 million for the cafeteria
Maybe the best thing Ycombinator could do for Pinboard is sell the bookmarking service and send Maciej around the world with a laptop and a publishing contract.
"Pinboard's Guide to Argentina"
"Pinboard's Guide to Antarctica"
"Pinboard's Guide to Silicon Valley (volumes I-X)"
I feel like with proper funding he could hit all 5 and possibly call me out for my high school indiscretions as well. I for one can think of very few things that deserve funding more than that.
Where would the money go? Would you consider investing, assuming you get the funding, at least $1m into a $plashy landing page?
Finally, what is your strategy (and God help you if you do not have it) towards convincing potential investors to give you $80m and not think about the revenue?
Spending $1M on a landing page sounds like a fun challege. If that pledge makes people invest, I'm happy to make it.
I realize that having revenue makes many investors uneasy. If that remained a stumbling block, I would consider moving to some kind of free plan.
$41? $43? Sky's really the limit here.
"Co-Prosperity Cloud 2: the Trickle-Down"
(In fact, I have a whole bunch of IFTTT rules to save "faves" into Pinboard from Flickr, Instagram, Twitter, etc.)
It's not a glamorous business model, but with so many online services aiming for the stars, one can make a decent living gathering up the wreckage.
(btw, love pinboard!)
Long term: acquired by Pinterest
I will find you.
immediately acquires delicio.us
Delicious costs $9K/month to run on AWS, so funding would definitely help there.
As far as I can tell, the site is now being run by some regretful SEO dude in Canada, and I don't think it would take a large suitcase of money to get it away from him.
The current redirect is temporary.
alright pinboard, ill give you a shot.
Though I use Instapaper myself, I'd consider using it more in Pinboard if there were support for a parse webpages into plain text service.
As far as HN proper, I don't dislike this community at all, particularly since dang took the reins. It's an interesting place and I've tried to contribute in good faith for many years now, besides just making fun of it.
I'm pretty sure Silicon Valley are quite well aware that privacy is an issue and a growing number of users are uncomfortable with the surveillance-as-a-service business model, but it pays the bills so why would they change? How can you create this demand so that the pro-privacy business model works?
I'm curious to see what you can make of the opportunity, if one even exists here.
I would call what I do 'impure trolling', since I run an actual business, and have given an earnest series of talks calling for regulations on mass surveillance.
Following in this earnest vein, I live a life of independence and fun, and would like to encourage young technical people to live that life too, rather than wasting their youth in pursuit of a one-in-ten-thousand shot at plutocracy.
The startup scene hasn't been content with "paying the bills". They've been chasing demand even when that demand doesn't bring actual money along with it. It's completely nuts, and maybe it should change a little.
I mean, you sort of imply that the pro-privacy business model doesn't work, but Pinboard is more profitable than Twitter. Does that mean profitability is no longer the measure of whether a business model "works"?
The folks at Basecamp (formerly 37signals) have been pretty consistent too at criticizing the Silicon Valley rhetoric, and their company is undeniably profitable. They write at https://signalvnoise.com and I also recommend their books.
It Just Works, and that's all it does, and that's all I need it to do.
edit It may also be useful to know the size and weight of the bowling ball.
Did signup conversion change when you switched from one-time fee to recurring?
Do you have any current weird channels for user acquisition? I mean, besides those last few del.icio.us users...
*as a Pinboard customer
P.S. For anyone who hasn't seen, Pinboard's Twitter account is pretty amusing startup satire.
My weird channels for acquisition are a variety of publicity stunts and Twitter drama. Something like IFTTT recently threatening to turn off their Pinboard channel is manna from heaven for me.
On those lines I think it should be more like log everything that I hit on all my devices and make the search organized. Something similar using apriori algorithm was my school project and I used it a lot until now when I have slowly moved to pocket.
My 2 cents - "In short better to have a smart search and indexing instead of bookmarking "