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The Ruby Code of Conduct (ruby-lang.org)
14 points by mrstorm on Feb 17, 2016 | hide | past | web | favorite | 9 comments

I like this. It's got a good "founding document" feel to it. It doesn't take sides. It allows reasonable accommodation for situation and person. I would be concerned that some may not feel protected enough by its language; it doesn't really say what the punishment is for not according by it. I wonder what the development process for it involved.

See my other comment, but matz specifically eschewed enforcement provisions. See https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004 and e.g. search on his name, also skim to get a general idea about how it all happened.

Not opposed to code of conducts but why the big rush to them. Communities have been Annd continue to be fine without them. Can we just stop over policing everything and just get stuff done?

You've never been subject to a misconduct have you

>Behaviour which can be reasonably considered harassment will not be tolerated.

There's a lot of room for rules lawyering in that one.

The connotations of "Code of Conduct" might be overstating what this ended up being. In the initial discussion matz was emphatic that there would be no formal enforcement mechanisms associated with the code, and he then announced it with the comment "I hope it works. We may upgrade it if something happens." (https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004).

My interpretation is that it's a minimal formalization of "Matz is Nice And So We Are Nice" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINASWAN), likely at least in part aspirational like MANISWAN, and that rules lawyering and the like will not be viewed kindly.

that's a pretty short CoC

Sorry, this is weak sauce, especially "When interpreting the words and actions of others, participants should always assume good intentions". Here is what a comprehensive Code of Conduct looks like (from NodeJS) https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.m...

Having one code of conduct subcontract out its definitions to another code of conduct on a completely different site is a pretty bad design pattern.

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