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We should be honest and talk about just not creating more jobs BUT having LESS babies.



>There exists a realizable, evolutionary alternative to our being either atom-bombed into extinction or crowding ourselves off the planet. The alternative is the computer-persuadable veering of big business from its weaponry fixation to accommodation of all humanity at an aerospace level of technology, with the vastly larger, far more enduringly profitable for all, entirely new World Livingry Service Industry. It is statistically evident that the more advanced the living standard, the lower the birth rate.

-Buckminster Fuller, Foreword, Grunch of Giants

He's talking about the Demographic-Economic Paradox by the way. There is a renewable surplus of the basic physiological needs of humanity, yet almost 50% of the global population lives in poverty and struggles to obtain these basic needs. The most simple and effective solution to overpopulation is to focus on renewable production processes and distribution methods (i.e. farming the sea; using automated solar power drone distribution methods). Technically, it is entirely feasible, it is just a matter of user buy in which is the real challenge.


Why do you think that developed countries have below replacement birth rates? Many people cannot afford to raise families anymore. By afford I mean, afford to raise them to an adequate first world standard. So that's already happening.


Why not the other way around - just kill everybody above a certain cutoff and feed them as soylent to the rest? They've already spent most of their productive years anyway, right? Its equally ridiculous, isn't it?


No, killing people and feeding them to others is several orders of magnitude more ridiculous than simply voluntarily having fewer children.


Every developed country in the world has a negative net population growth - natural growth excluding migration. The only reason the seniors are fed, clothed and washed is a a supply train of foreign nurses and home-care aides, usually from a country such as Philippines - which has a positive population growth. The entire economic system, as it is right now - in reality, is based on positive population growth. How is decreasing the number of kids is going to help?


Because automation means less need for labor, which solves the issue of "positive population growth" -- since it's not the bodies that are providing the economic activity, its their labor. But the bodies require more and more resources that our planet is not capable of sustaining. Hence, less babies.




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