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Google Wave Aha moment, with:public is Awesome (victusspiritus.com)
15 points by messel 118 days ago | 18 comments


3 points by vegashacker 118 days ago | link

I feel like you already have to know what with:public is before reading this. I got 1.5 paragraphs in and stopped since I had no idea what was going on.

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2 points by messel 118 days ago | link

Well then I owe you a better explanation. If you haven't used Google Wave before I should first state that there is a search box in the center window. Simply by typing in with:public it searches all public waves and displays them. Then you can scan through waves of interest and join in where you like.

Additionally you can add extra qualifiers like with:public HackerNews and get waves like the HackerNews wave.

Nothing Earth shattering yet, but there is definitely some potential for people connecting which is always fun (at least for me) as well as building tools (robots) for automagic wave processing.

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2 points by Goronmon 118 days ago | link

I find public waves to be too much like a message board, but harder to follow.

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1 point by messel 118 days ago | link

Good point, thanks for chiming in.

While they do resemble other forums, the drag and drop connections, and potential utility addins, as well as lightning fast search are drop dead sexy.

I can't normally think up a new tool for a forum I hang out on, and have them host it.

It's a distributal protocol. We can host our own servers which may require search like status propagation. I wrote it up not too long ago, but messages like "hey have you seen this string?" would aid decentralized search.

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1 point by messel 116 days ago | link

Followed up with embed example and how to: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=883551

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1 point by pohl 118 days ago | link

I get the impression that public waves were a quick hack that Google created to give new users someone to interact with while the network is new & small. (If you just got onboard, it's likely that you only have one friend, and that could get boring very quickly. Furthermore, enabling mass public interaction would give theme some stress situations to test how their infrastructure scales, and how their GWT client scales in the browser.) The strange fake contact that one has to add as a wave participant is one indicator. Another is the fact that with:public is undocumented.

Once the service is completely open, it's unlikely that this hack will be needed any longer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the public@a.gwave.com user retired after a while, anyway.

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1 point by messel 118 days ago | link

I hope that the public pipeline is maintained as long as possible. The searching power available from such a stream is quite rich with opportunity.

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1 point by bastian 118 days ago | link

I have to say this is pretty awesome. I just created a public wave with a question in regards to the Reuters Newswires pricing structure, and the first people already replied.

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1 point by messel 118 days ago | link

Now that's a quick response. Monitoring the public channel for information relevant to your interests is a great way to use it.

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1 point by TrevorJ 118 days ago | link

I found it akin to having 100 IRC chatrooms open at one time. It was a bit too overwhelming in that new conversations kept being found/updated/changed.

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1 point by messel 118 days ago | link

Oh my. The full pipeline could be a litte much.

I added additional words to filter by like HackerNews and reddit.

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1 point by secret 118 days ago | link

I just got my invitation today- there is no way with:public will be usable once anyone can join. I can't even keep up as it is. Maybe it needs a pause button.

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1 point by messel 118 days ago | link

I believe the data pipeline will be quite valuable, and strong filters (Google can search like a bandit) will help you find information relevant to your interests.

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1 point by rationalbeaver 118 days ago | link

Yeah, that definitely improves the experience. Searching for locations is pretty entertaining right now. Lots of people connecting with others nearby.

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1 point by DannoHung 118 days ago | link

Where was documentation on with:public hidden? I perused the starter waves, but didn't see anything about that or the group: prefix.

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1 point by messel 118 days ago | link

I never found any Danno. Someone else pointed me to it.

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0 points by hoffmabc 118 days ago | link

that is sick, thanks for the tip.

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1 point by messel 118 days ago | link

anytime

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