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Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event (apple.com)
237 points by Geee on Sept 9, 2014 | hide | past | favorite | 362 comments



Anyone hearing Chinese commentary?


Yeah I am. This stream is also super low quality… what is going on?


Yup


I am hearing Tim Cook and some Chinese translation in the back.

Go figure.


Yes, super annoying!


Pretty sad, on my iPad I had it for a while first with the Chinese translation and then that faded out, then the video stopped but the 'live blog' updates kept going, and then Safari crashed. And now three versions: access denied, a plain text non-stylized page, safari crash.

Amazing that this isn't a solved problem by now.


Guess: The building outside is actually a stage where Dre will perform.


Announcing Apple Records and iLabel. They will also announce their first album to be Detox.


Question that I didn't hear addressed anywhere in the talk or online yet.

Will the NFC capability be exposed to third party apps through the SDK in any way?

I'm curious because they started talking about the apps for iWatch right after talking about its features, but they didn't discuss NFC in any other context but its use via Apple Pay.

What do you all think?


I can't watch any of the video (using Chrome) so I'm just watching the live updates on the website instead with bullet points...which is apparently a lot more useful than the video feed. 200 comments and nobody is discussing the technology, what a shame after all that build-up.

Anyway the new iPhone looks more like a Samsung in terms of size, screen resolution etc. but presumably with a significant Apple technical edge. It seems like a really beautiful product, and I say that as someone who doesn't care for Apple's stuff in general.

I'm sad that the launch of multiple new products is being overshadowed by the clusterfuck of the presentation, but it's a great example of execution > ideas that will probably be taught in business schools for years to come :-/


The hardware decisions of the iPhone 6 (and especially 6 plus) closely follow what Android manufacturers have been doing for years.


Mostly but not quite. The iPhone 6 is still low res (720p-ish) compared to top tier Android phones (Galaxy S4 from last year is 1080p). The only HD iPhone is the iPhone 6 Plus, but that starts at $750.


People will get used to iPhone6 size, though many of iPhone5 users will feel like unfarily forgotten. I was betting on iPhone6 being same size as 5s and another on just a tad larger - I was wrong.

Apple Watch does not bring anything exceptional to wrist devices world, though overall functionality and UX is much better than those of Android. It's just an accessory for iPhone. One thing they got right - wristwatch is personal, so it should be able to be made look personal and different.

I can't say much about Apple Pay. Payments via iPhone look nice (fingerprint as authorization method) but paying via Watch just does not look very secure to me - how are you going to add that one factor? Also, it's another proprietary way of paying for stuff, which just does not feel right...


The livestream of this event, both browser and Apple TV access, is an unmitigated disaster. I'm not sure I've ever seen something go this poorly, and I'm certain I've never seen an Apple event go this poorly.


I was really hoping the watch would be able to track gps for runs without needing an iphone. Am i supposed to wear the watch and then still have my iphone in my hand when I go for a run? Terrible user experience.


OUCH! This is on a MacBook Pro running Safari:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.apple.com/" on this server.

Reference #18.342f0660.1410282543.baf7bd


Server quirk.


I think Akamai is dropping the ball today.


quite a disgrace for a tech company of this size: either a black screen, an access denied error, stalling stream with a chinese (?) voice over…

but hey, the iphone 6 has rounded corners! B|


This article explains pretty well what went wrong with the stream. It wasn't Akamai, it was Apple. The interactive JSON-based elements that had on their page prevented it from being cached which resulted in the issues we were seeing. http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2014/09/why-apples-livestream...


Aaand japanese translations ???


It sounds like Chinese to me.


It sounds more like Chinese.


Is anyone else getting Chinese crosstalk on the audio?


Yes it's incredibly distracting.


Who wants to see the mac mini revived? ;)


Apple has a pattern before keynotes where they push out the less glamorous products. They keep them ready to go in the keynote in case something happens with a glamorous announcement they have filler. But when they are confident that they can announce the next iPhone, or whatever, they push out the minor rev of the iMac or whatever.

I'm worried. This is the machine I want to buy next. A modern mac mini would be ideal.

They should have shipped one early this year but didn't. That's ok, the mac pro took a lot of resources and is a major redesign.

So, then the next expected time is last week.

So, either the Mac Mini is significant enough to talk about today (with two phones and an alleged watch? that seems doubtful)... or it might be effectively cancelled.


Or they decided to skip Haswell, and are now waiting on Broadwell, which is substantially delayed. I'd say a Mini early next year might be a good bet.


Seconded! I've been wanting to replace an older iMac with a mini for a some time now. The mini is in dire need of a refresh given that it's been since 2012 that the guts were updated and 2010 since the design was updated.


Me! I've been wanting to replace my Windows desktop machine for a year now, but I've been waiting for a refresh on the mac mini.


Why not get one of the many other mITX computers, or even an Intel NUC?


I use a macbook air all day for work. I built my windows box when I was doing .NET development, but I've long since switched to ruby -- ideally I'd like to have both running the same OS (which I guess could be a flavor of linux, but I'm too lazy for that).


Do you use to the mba without an external monitor and keyboard? I can seem to adjust to developing all day on laptop, thus wanting a mac mini upgrade.


Well, I share my desktop machine with my girlfriend. I could easily get by with a clean desk at home and just the MBA -- that said, it's not completely up to me. :)


Why don't you get a Hackintosh? Even old Acer Aspire netbooks can run OSX and there are plenty of tutorials online.


Are the top comments really about the livestream problems and not about what they released? http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/9/6125873/apple-watch-smartwa...


well yes, this thread was / is actually about that…


For those not able to see the video, text updates [here](http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2fwmcl/apple_special_...)


I'm getting

"You don't have permission to access "http://www.apple.com/live/2014-sept-event/" on this server. Reference #18.520fd717.1410283069.16b78ac2"

How come?


Gizmodo's live blog here has been working well for me: http://live.gizmodo.com/our-new-iphone-liveblog-starts-right...


This site has the most and best comments on the disaster by Apple. I am a fan of Apple and use many of there products. To my disappointment I was not able to hear or watch any of the broadcast. I agree with many of the comments...fire the bad guys!


Apple's web site has a curated set of "live" posts giving details. http://www.apple.com/live/2014-sept-event/


These highlights (with pictures) are coming in real-time and save the bother of trying to watch video.


Off by 1 error in the new Fitness app. Apparently you can be 101% done with a run.



Now redirecting directly to cdn (akamai) at http://www.apple.com.edgesuite.net/live/2014-sept-event/


Does anyone know whose network is delivering the streams? Is it Akamai?


One of the links posted to the stream is hosted on p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net and a little googling shows that Edgesuite is an Akamai product.


Looks like iOS devices are being sent to a different stream. Viewing is perfect so far on my iPhone.


The translation voiceover is pretty distracting.

Not sure what Apple is trying to do.


Little onions love to disco. With Chinese translations. And the TV Truck. Maybe they have an augmented reality product coming? Bringing back the rainbow logo? This is terrible.


I like working and having the text feed. I use:

http://www.macrumors.com/ feed of the event. It autorefreshes which is nice.



hahah.. from all videos player i think apple video player sucks!!. I hate that.. not to say Apple event last night (MY time). I think youtube or google services are better video player. hmm.. why apple always wanted to create and use their own video player but they denide to develop it. I cannot play video in some websites. Sucks!!! Apple should change this. BTW Im apple fan though.


Oh good, charts with no Y axis. How informative.

http://i.imgur.com/4UZk0MH.png


I like how there is a trend line that interpolates between different iphone generations. That's probably meaningful somehow.


WOW their streaming choices here have made me loose another notch of respect for apple WTF, safari only? This is 2014 apple grow up.


This has always been the case. Either setup VLC so http live streaming (which is JUST a m3u playlist of mp4 files that get downloaded in succession) or install safari.


tl;dr: they made a bigger phone and a watch


Can anyone recall if iOS goes GM / public release on the day of this? Or do we have to wait a week?


It always goes GM immediately but only dev program members can get it. I think for the public the update has varied between phone launch day and a few days after the event.


Historically, the new iPhone becomes available on Friday a week and a half after the event and the new iOS is released for older phones at the same time.


iOS major versions are usually released soon after the actual phone is released, so still another week or two to wait.


That rings a bell - thank you. :-)


So the smart money is on:

- iWatch with less features, possibly just tracks your every move and becomes part of quantified self

- a new record label or Dre inspired mood

- two new iPhones

Possibly some or all put back till they are perfect.

Is this a correct reading of what has to be a record 150 HN posts in five minutes flat?


Yay! The Chinese translation has stopped!! It took only 26 minutes to achieve this.

I hope someone gets fired for these goofs. I expected better from Apple.


getting translators for...mandarin? korean? over the sound of tim cook...


How much will an unlocked version be of iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+? If you buy full price from Tmobile.


This presentation looks like it's going to be on another level.. even for Apple standards.


Any chance we can keep all Apple discussion on HN contained in this thread?


Half the stories on the front page will be Apple stories within the next two hours.

The ranking algorithm will drop them off soon enough. Maybe the time coefficient should be stronger for days like today, though.


>> "Maybe the time coefficient should be stronger for days like today, though."

I disagree. The reason the front page becomes full of Apple is because Apple launches all their stuff at once. There are only maybe 2 or 3 times a year that Apple releases new stuff. The discussions of these things are important. They shouldn't be penalised for happening at the same time.


Probably not. People are going to post the links to Apple's announcements which makes sense. I don't want to read the discussion of the iWatch along with everything else in one thread.


Unlikely. There will probably be 300+ comments on the iWatch alone.


Sadly, no.


Can't wait to see the new iPhone 6, time to change my old iPhone 4 :)


[Off-Topic]: The 12:44 pic might as well be a Starbucks ad (8:44 PDT)


I'm getting an access denied page trying to refresh the stream


The live stream is a disaster. Anyone experiences a homepaga crash?


did anyone catch if apple devices can do peer-to-peer payments via apple pay? (e.g., one phone acting as a reader, à la square, another as payer)


Wow they seriously messed this one up.


iBeats smart headphones with voice-only UI. "Wish we could say more".


whats up with the Chinese translations?


seventeen songs at once are playing


anyone else getting access denied?


why am i getting bars


now no audio?


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I can't reproduce this in either Chrome or Firefox. All of the requests I see are to the http://www.apple.com origin. I also can't find any hard-coded https://www.apple.com URLs in the HTML+JS sources. Maybe they fixed it already, or maybe you have a browser extension that's modifying the requests on your end.


Turns out to be HTTPS Everywhere (EFF's extension) doing it. My bad.


Works for me, a normal user. CLOSED:WONTFIX


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Windows user here on Chrome, worked fine.

But I'm really just using it as a countdown timer before I start up the VLC stream.


I wonder if they started working on the bigger iPhones while airing this ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY4c2mh15Yk

The new "reachability" feature is an interesting way to try to minimize the problem though, if a little cumbersome.


Honestly very excited about this... very excited.


Getting 'Access Denied' now


WTF per minute world record just got smashed to peaces


Get it together, jeesh.


I can't believe I'm actually tuning in to watch this.


so silly, could really make or break my opinion of apple's future


Streaming seems to be better from the iPad than the Mac... weird


The timer doesn't display for me. Is this happening with anyone else?


The new iPhone 6000 SUX. Big is back! Because Bigger is Better! (c.f. robocop)


Maybe you all are too young to remember the 6000 SUX.


So I have to double click the home button to reach the top of the screen?!


"Our live broadcast begins at 10 a.m. PDT."

Considering that the entire world uses GMT, and that only US citizens use PDT, they could have bothered to use GMT.

Or better still, they could have detected your location/system time and just put a countdown or your own local time.


Uhmm, did you not notice that HUGE countdown timer? That pretty much covers entire world.

And, no, whole world doesn't use GMT (talk to Indians and Chinese about what time they use). Also, entire US doesn't use PDT time. You know, some people live on east coast.


> Uhmm, did you not notice that HUGE countdown timer? That pretty much covers entire world.

It want's there when I visited. :-(

> And, no, whole world doesn't use GMT (talk to Indians and Chinese about what time they use). Also, entire US doesn't use PDT time. You know, some people live on east coast.

But they must most certainly know their GMT offset, since it's the worldwide reference.


Indians, in particular, make it even more interesting with the extra half-hour offset. :-D


The screen is filled with a huge countdown. You can't add the countdown to your current time and get the answer? If someone is holding an event I would expect them to announce the start in local time - the people that need to know the time the most are the ones that are going to be there, why make it more difficult for them?


The timer was not there when I posted this (my complaint was, in part, that there wasn't one).


Or you could just Google the time in your timezone yourself.




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