On: Steve Jobs's response after getting a Google emplo...

[JeremyMorgan]

Are people surprised when tech executives act like other power hungry execs?

The worst part of it was "make a public example of this termination". This doesn't make it any more or less illegal but it shows how drunk on power on he is.

[mikeash → JeremyMorgan]

"Make a public example of this termination" was written by by Google's VP of HR, not Jobs.

[lostInTheWoods3 → mikeash]

Make a public example of this termination

WTF? When did this become feudal Japan?

[jjoonathan → lostInTheWoods3]

There are two cases where the "obey me without question or else" atmosphere is particularly useful:

1. In the military, where debates and disagreements could create fatal communication problems and delays

2. When the people in power need to suppress a truth that would otherwise be outed in the normal course of discussion

[SimHacker → mikeash]

"Public, but not tooooo public! We'd prefer the facts of the matter not to end up in any newspaper articles."

[JeremyMorgan → mikeash]

Yeah, perhaps I was a bit vague, I didn't mean Jobs.

I should have said he/she because I don't know the gender of Shona Brown. Jobs was drunk on power too, but I don't think this incident is the best example of it.

[mikeash → JeremyMorgan]

Or you could have looked it up....

[JeremyMorgan → mikeash]

Not worth the cycles. Gender doesn't really matter when someone's being a douche does it?

[walshemj → mikeash]

VP of HR so the over-promoted clerical assistant who gets the coffee and biscuits at meetings then :-)

[mikeash → walshemj]

I imagine you don't mean this and ended up doing this by accident because you didn't bother to research the person at all, but this comment ends up being unbelievably sexist.

I would like to have an interesting and informed discussion, but that requires that the other participants do some basic reading before making snide remarks.

[namdnay → mikeash]

I don't believe he made any reference to the sex of the VP of HR, either explicitly or grammatically...

[mikeash → namdnay]

That's why I took so much trouble to give him the benefit of the doubt, because it probably was accidental.

[walshemj → mikeash]

Calling me "unbelievably sexist" is giving me the benefit of the doubt - so what do you say if you really dont like some one then

And you made assumptions about my gender - Check Your privilege mate.

[mikeash → walshemj]

I called your comment that, and I stand by it.

If you can't separate your individual self from a comment you've written, that's your own problem.

[JeremyMorgan → mikeash]

That must have been exhausting.

[walshemj → mikeash]

A CA is not a gendered grade I think it is you who are being sexist by assuming that I meant a female secretary here.

[mikeash → walshemj]

You are referring to a woman, as the person in question is female. I assumed you didn't know this and that's why I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but in that context the comment ends up being sexist.

[Tactic → mikeash]

You keep using that word... I don't think it means what you think it means.

[Wohui → JeremyMorgan]

>it shows how drunk on power on he is.

Read the article properly.

[JeremyMorgan → Wohui]

I did. This isn't about Jobs, it's about the reaction to his demand.