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I would love it but I can't make myself like an HP product because HP has been selling thousands frozen WindowsXP + IE6 computers to the universities in my country.



Considering how many management changes ago it was and the number of different divisions in HP, that's almost like not liking Germany today for WWII. How many years ago that happened? (IE6? must've been ~2004)


I wish it had been ~2004 but it has been happening since 2008. They sold that crappy computers to one of the biggest and newest university libraries in Europe.

So, I have a real reason to ignore HP products even if they have great platform.


Because they sold them something they were willing to buy? Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.


As a coder, ethical behavior of the company behind the platform I use is very important to me.


Where's your proof that this behavior was unethical? I know nonprofits and educational institutions that still require IE6 today due to various reasons, and some on XP because they haven't okayed an upgrade cycle even if they're not using it. No offense intended, but your claims are difficult to take seriously. This sounds significantly more like "I don't like that they use Microsoft" than anything to do with what kind of Microsoft software they sold.

In the overwhelming majority of these cases that I've seen, there is much more going on than "derp, we're gonna give them IE6 because we're eeeeeevil."

(And if that "ethical behavior" is really so important to you, you might as well just stop using computers because each and every one of them are, on one level or another, not fundamentally opposed to screwing the next guy to get ahead. Don't use Google or Yahoo. Don't use Twitter or Facebook. Don't send network packets over Cisco hardware. Don't buy Intel hardware. Don't buy AMD hardware. Don't buy nVidia graphics cards. The list goes on.

Even everybody's favorite guys over at Canonical have demonstrated a willingness to screw people over, viz. the Banshee project.)


Eropple, selling thousands of frozen computers with IE6 sounds ok for you? it's clear that there is nothing to talk about.


There's nothing "frozen" about a computer that has IE6.

I would respectfully suggest that you look and see if you're upset because they've got IE6 on them or because they've got Microsoft software on them. Your phrasing and behavior suggests the latter.


It seems you've been commenting without trying to understand what "frozen" means. I'm not surprised, go on


If you are using words in a non-standard way, it behooves you to actually clarify and explain what you mean.

You are doing little to change the impression of "upset Linux fanboy" that you created in your first post and have strengthened since.


I'm a fanboy of nothing except six things;

- freedom - freedom - freedom - wtf public license - good software - user friendly business models

You're right, I'm an upset linux fanboy. I'm upset about the time we've lost because of recent internet explorer versions and the companies supporting junk software instead of the modern ones.




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