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I for one plan to open a startup in NYC.

Why? B/c there are no girls in silicon valley. If you are in your 20s, or early 30s, you are probably wasting your best dating years away.

I like to work hard/play hard and NYC seems the perfect place to do it. In SV, you work hard/get more bored. You are surrounded by boring suburbs. SF is fun for a while, but good luck finding dateable girls. (If you are into hipster chicks, it is perfect). Eventually work hard without corresponding fun becomes tedious, and people burn off, and move on.

NYC seems to have a better balance. When people leave NYC, (or Manhattan), they seem to settle for the cheaper boroughs, or New Jersey / RI. When people leave SF/SV, they just move away.

Fred Wilson should start emphasizing this more in his posts. He doesn't realize how bad the 'dating' situation is here, and just be in a city where you meet lots of well educated girls, is a huge perk for many single 20s-30something engineers.

Ps. I have been talking with some friends also, that are in the same boat. Our plan is to actually have at least an office there. Seriously. I guess it is just like rock bands, where people join them "to get the chicks", so will be my next startup. "To get the chicks". Life is too short. :D




If you're looking for dating, you should consider Austin. Plus you could save thousands of dollars a month in rent and pay no state income tax. I may have to write a post on this.


Having lived in both places, I can wholeheartedly agree. Don't come to SF/SV for the women. The downside of NY is the innovation is in finance, not in tech.


Hilarious. I haven't lived in the Valley but I've heard this from some of my friends who do. I guess it does make a lot of sense after some thought.


I feel like the quality of women in California is better than in NYC. Granted I'm in NJ, so our quality is even lower.

Who knows, maybe it's just a case of the grass being greener on the other side...but I feel like an 8 here, is only a 4-5 in California.


Maybe in So Cal, but in my short experience the Bay Area fell far short of my expectations. Especially compared to NYC, which imo has the most varied beautiful women in the country. I've been all over, but when I visited nyc for the first time I saw a hot chic of a different flavor, every ten steps. Not sure about Jersey, only been to EWR.

Contrast this with SF. I was there a couple days staying at the CLIFT a few months ago.I was sitting in my room and I decided to go out and see what the SF women were like. I went down to the bar and was presently suprised to see that it was packed...with men. I mean there might have been 2 girls for 50 guys.


I wouldn't judge any city by what I find in a hotel bar.


Yes, but simultaneously, the competition in NYC would be stiffer. You're* a computer nerd with a startup that pays crap-all now but might score big in 5 years. The other three-quarters of the bar are lawyers or bankers who bring in a lot more than you do right now. Throw in all the actors and writers for good measure, and you can see that the competition is going to be challenging.

I'm not saying that that makes it not worth the numbers advantage, but it certainly tempers that edge. I'm also not saying girls are swayed entirely by a man's financial prospects.

* - generic example, not you specifically


"... Why? B/c there are no girls in silicon valley. If you are in your 20s, or early 30s, you are probably wasting your best dating years away ..."

But you could try the jzw approach ("our 'use case' should be, there's a 22 year old college student living in the dorms. How will this software get him laid?") and still stay in the valley ~ http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jamie_Zawinski


Wow... I have the exact same thoughts about Seattle. Maybe the west coast just sucks that way.


You are looking for Denver/Boulder my friend.




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